Reflections on South Sudan’s Independence By Eskinder Nega

July 8th, 2011 Print Print Email Email

If it was up to the Egyptians there would be no independent country called Sudan. And briefly, in the mid-nineteenth century, Egypt and present day Sudan were indeed one under the wildly ambitious and much romanticized Albanian Khedive, Ismail the Magnificent. But Victorian Britain, the premier world power in the nineteenth century, and the country to which a financially bankrupt and politically exhausted Egypt was to succumb in the late nineteenth century, doggedly insisted on a separation.

Northern Sudan and Egypt have shared a common past for stretched duration’s before the ascendance of Islam. But whereas Arab conquerors succeeded in much of Egypt they were somehow unable to tread to the southern peripheries and subjugate Nubia, as the region was then known.

And what is now a large part of north Sudan and south Egypt effectively became independent for the next 700 years, until the beginning of the ninetieth century when Egyptians, nominally under the Ottomans but effectively sovereign, began to push southwards.

Ismail the Magnificent dreamt of uniting the Nile valley under direct Egyptian control. He thus pushed beyond historical Nubia to seize new
territories in the south, where he faced no serious opposition and succeeded, and the east, where an impenetrable Ethiopian resistance,
under king Yohannes, triggered not only his downfall but ultimately led to the collapse of Egyptian independence, too.

The British inherited the new lands in south Sudan when they formally occupied Egypt in 1882.What they found were an assortment of 200 disparate Nilotic ethnicities who had nothing in common with the Arabized, Islamized north. In due course they decided to administer them separately; and for thirty years extraordinarily prohibited the movement of peoples between the two regions to preempt southern assimilation. When it was time for the British to leave in the mid 1950s the two peoples were strangers as ever.

The prospect of decolonization triggered civil war in Sudan in 1955, a year before independence. Southerners modestly demanded limited autonomy but northerners insisted on absorption and integration. This was the 50s, well before multi-culturalism was to go mainstream in subsequent decades. The war, Sudan’s first civil war, lasted until 1972. An uneasy but much welcomed ten year lull of hostilities then ensued courtesy of a peace treaty brokered in Addis Ababa; only to be cut short in 1983 when Islamic law was forcibly imposed on the south.

Sudan’s second civil war was to last much longer than the first; twenty one years this time. The consequences were literally cataclysmic. Though the southern populace has never peaked above the 10 million mark, around 2.5 million were to die and 5 million more were to be displaced in two decades of mayhem. For each combatant who died in conflict, more than 20 civilians were either deliberately slaughtered or were caught in cross-fire. Every southern household was inundated one way or the other. The US government has classified it as genocide.

By the time a second peace agreement was signed in 2005, independence
for the south, sooner or later, was a foregone conclusion. No other out come could conceivably be acceptable to highly traumatized southerners. To their credit, and much to the relief of the international community, even northerners were able to acknowledge this much.

And so the big day has finally come. South Sudan will join the international community on Saturday, July 11, 2011. But while the outcome of the war is welcomed all over Africa there will nonetheless be few overt celebrations.

Many African governments dread the specter of revived secessionist ambitions across the continent. With the independence of South Sudan, the bedrock of the post-independence African consensus, the inviolability of colonial-era borders, has been shattered. Anything to the determinant of colonial boundaries is now plausible. In this sense, a new era has begun in Africa.

Even after the session of south Sudan no country will be more wary of the implications than north Sudan. Secessionist sentiment in Darfur, where a ferocious insurgency has cost the lives of half a million people and displaced millions more, will most probably be reinforced.Neither the government in Khartoum nor the international community will be in a position to dissuade calls for a referendum like the one held in south Sudan. And it will be harder to ignore Somaliland and Western Sahara.

85% of Sudan’s oil comes from South Sudan. But the revenue is being split equally with the north, which controls the pipeline that delivers it to the international market. This will no doubt be challenged in the near future; a shorter pipeline to the Kenyan coast has already been proposed. The geopolitical significance of the north will inevitably shrink while that of the south is set to rise. Expect to see more and more Chinese in South Sudan over the coming years. Westerners are hardly in a position to compete.

But the overseas Consortium, Greater Nile Petroleum Operating Company,
that control the oil in the south is not controlled by the Chinese as has been widely reported. Their share stands at only 40%. The reminder is split between Malaysians, 30%, and Indians, 25%. This will be a difficult team to beat in the energy sector.

There is a question to which no politician or pundit has yet offered a convincing answer: Will an independent South Sudan be stable?

Dispute over border demarcation between north and south Sudan has already entailed the need to deploy UN mandated Ethiopian peacekeepers
in Abyei, a contested oil rich area. The statuses of northern controlled South Kurdufan and Blue Nile regions, areas much larger than Abeiy and claimed by both sides, are pending an outcome of a promised referendum. Now that South Sudan is finally free, however, the international community may very well look the other way if the north decides not to honor its promise. But there will be domestic pressure on the South Sudanese government not to abandon kins in the north.

No less menacing is the rivalry between Dinkas, South Sudan’s largest
ethnic group, and Nuers, the second largest, which threatens the emergence of a pluralistic constitutional democracy. Both sides are
heavily armed and remain susceptible to external manipulators, not
least northern Sudanese. The CIA has warned that “mass killing or genocide” will take place by 2015. There is also the bona fide danger of proxy war between Ethiopia and Eritrea. And rampant corruption is seriously undermining the legitimacy of the new state.

But whatever dangers may lie ahead the emergence of an independent
South Sudan is cause for celebration. A people longed for freedom, fought for it against the odds, and finally triumphed. Here is history marching forward. Here is freedom overcoming tyranny. Here is David slaying Goliath. Here is exemplified the potential in all of us to do great things. Here is hope for humanity.

Welcome South Sudan. God bless.

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  1. Tecola W. Hagos
    | #1

    Dear Eskinder:
    This is an outstanding piece taking into account the limited space available for a political Commentary. I have two points that should be corrected or clarified so there be no misunderstanding: 1) You referred to Emperor Yohannes IV as “King Yohannes” that is a gross error if it is intentional. During the period you were referring to there was a treaty signed by Ethiopia and Great Britain/Egypt on 3rd of June 1884 (Hewett Treaty) where in Yohannes is referred to as “Negoos Negust of Ethiopia” i.e. “King of Kings.” Emperor Yohannes IV by then had already appointed Kings under him. Emperor Yohannes confirmed King Menilik as King of Shoa in 1878; he also appointed Ras Adal Tesema of Gojam as King Teklehaymanot of Gojam and Keffa in 1881. Thus referring to Emperor Yohannes IV as “King Yohannes” is inappropriate and must be corrected.
    2) Your analysis as good as it is, left out a crucial history of the area, that of the history of the Kingdom of Lado that straddled/comprised most of the area that is now South Sudan as well as Northern Uganda. Juba, the current capital of South Sudan was also its northern part of its domain. Lado is a very ancient Kingdom known to Pharonic rulers. It is as old if not older than Axum and Yeha/Ethiopia. The Lado King was hoodwinked by the British when they established their dominance in the area in 1880s culminating in the 1894 British-Congolese Treaty. “On 10 June 1910, following Léopold’s death, the district became a province of the Anglo-Egyptian Sudan and in 1912 the southern half was ceded to Uganda, then a British colony.” [www.facebook.com/pages/Lado-Kingdom]
    The South Sudan independence is going to lead to civil war, for the main players are settlers from other Nilotic small tribes not in any way comparable in their settled national ethos as Lado citizens of old, and that historic injustice has not been resolved. Eskinder, please, look into the subject carefully that we may have a clear picture of our future relations with the South Sudan People. We may have to think in terms of our long term national interest in the area. Thank you for a great article.
    Tecola W. Hagos

  2. gragn Ahmed
    | #2

    iT IS SAD ESKINDER NEGA IS ADVOCATING SOUTH SEPARATION OF SUDAN BREAKING ONE OF THE LARGEST CONTINENT TO THE BENEFIT OF COPTS. WHILE YOU IGNORE THE SEPARATION OF SOMALI AND OROMO. TECOLA IS HERE WITH YOU PUSHING YOU TO SAY WHAT HE WANTS. ESKINDER YOU ARE A JOURNALIST AND YOU LACK BASIC KNOWLEDGE ON DEP HISTORY OF AFRICA. ETHIOPIAN COPTS ARE DOUBLE STANDARD I THOUGHT ESKINDER WAS FOR ALL HUMANITY. PLEASE MELES WATCH ESKINDER. UNSTABLE SUDAN WILL COST MELES DEARLY. SWITCHING TO KENYA THE OIL PIPELINE WILL SET FIRE ON SOUTH SUDAN AND I ASK EVERY MUSLIM ETHIOPIAN TO HELP THE UNITY OF SUDAN BECAUSE IT WILL DESTROY OUR FUTURE STABILITY INFESTED WITH COPT LEADERS. KENYA STAY AWY FROM SUDAN AFFAIR. THE NORTH PIPELINE IS MUCH SAFER FOR SUDAN THAN KENYA AS IT WILL EASY TO SABOTAGE IT. SAD DAY FOR SUADN.

  3. decency
    | #3

    A nice compliment prof Tecola,,all opinion makers need to be effectively understood for the good of our beloved country…
    God bless Ethiopia!!

  4. YEHUDA
    | #4

    TECOLA HAGOS

    Although I do not know about the history of Southern Sudan and therefore, make no any comment on it, the word used by Eskinder Nega in refering Yohannes as “King Yohannes” instead of “Empror of yohannes” is a frivolus claim and is trash as such. Your comment tales me two things, FIRST that Tigrians can’t be undermined even in the pen of inadvertent reference to title which is minor in this case. SECOND, the history of Yohanes as a person and king can’t be honored by such man-made and artificial title but by what he DID for the country and the peole. DON’T BE FOOL AND A “PROFESSOR’ AT THE SAME TIME, Sir, since Yohannes was and continued to be remember as a distroyer of non-pagan faiths (Judaism and Islam) while promoting self interest and a fabricated religion of Constantinaine of Rome and the Roman era. He was also a bytrial of his own people (Emperor Tewodros and the people in his side). Yohannes is not the only person in this catigory of bytrial of a nation and its people but so is Gebre Selassie Aba Gaber, Zewde Gebre Selassie and your boss in Arat Kilo, Melese Zenaw. Meles and Yohannes share same character since both bytried national/peoles’ interest by their selfish and personal power interest. God was swift to render his judgement on Yohanes and who know on Meles?.

  5. ECONOMIC GENOCIDE
    | #5

    Great article Eskinder,but with a mistake. Date of independence is July 9th,not july 11th. To the Sudanese gragne:keep your trouble and confusion of identity in North Sudan,we in Ethiopia and much of Africa primarily identify with our country and race not with imported religions. Remember also, it was Sudan that served as staging ground for anti-Ethiopian forces, also to please Egypt and Arabs who aimed to weaken Ethiopia because of the Nile.

  6. Sheger
    | #6

    Congratulations south Sudan. This is a victory to all of peace loving and proud east Africans.

    God bless the young south Sudan!!!!!!!!!.

  7. YEMM
    | #7

    South Sudan wil not be a viable state and sooner or later will unravel itself. Look at eritrea. after the shabia took control they promised to make eritrea the singapore of africa. but the reality is what we know today. the people are leaving the country in droves, povery and repression is rife. the region has become unstable with eritrea fighting against ethiopia and training terrorists ”ethnic freedom fighters” in somalia, ethiopia, sudan etc. the woyane has been rattling the war drum against shabia and both groups ahve been looting and devastating the region for over 20 years.

    this is what will happen in south sudan. the region is becoming more polarised and unstable due to outside influence on both sides. the presence of oil and disputed land will continue to make the situation worse and in this kind of situation issues like this arise all the time.

    wait and see

  8. Ordofaa
    | #8

    Oromia will be the very next newest nation with in 3 years from now!!! Mark my word for it. My gallant fighters in OLA and ever tenacious leaders in and around OLF have already liberated more than 60% of my Oromia. I am going to send a note to the UN General Secretary Mr. Ban Ki Moon on Monday to reserve a seat for the coming-soon newest Nation of Oromia. Oromia…What a sweet name!!!! The only people who get frightened by the it’s name are the Tigrayans and Amharas. We will show them how to transform a nation from being called ‘developing or underdeveloped’ into a nation fully developed in less than 10 years. That will be in record time. That is because the DNA and brain of my Oromia people is totally different from that of the lazy Tigrayans and Amharas. Just look at them. They claim to be an independent nation for more than 3,000 years but what they mastered in those 3,000 years is how to become efficient beggars and pan handlers. But we are like our close cousin Germans. We will get rid of any backwardness in all aspects of modern life in less than 10 years. I call upon all Oromo scientists, engineers, academics and entrepreneurs who have made their every where to start packing now. Three years is not a long time. I know there are tens of thousands Oromos whose skills have been well proven by their ground-breaking achievements working for governments and top-notch companies all over the world.
    Oromia will be the 194th nation to join the Unite Nations Organization. I have made an oath to myself and my children that I will walk 50 miles from where I live now to Dulles airport to board my flight to Finefine on that glorious Independence Day!!!! Mark my word for it!!!!!
    Congratulations South Sudan!!! We are right behind you!!!!!

  9. gragn Ahmed
    | #9

    yehuda
    Allah bless you on deciphering the real intention of our learned politicians who tell us sugar coated stories not histories of Ethiopia. Please young people in the age of internet access to information you can easily refute our history written by pro government and biased priests and intellectuals. No more professor of history. No more scholar.

  10. temben
    | #10

    oh sudan u c beseferut kuna mesefer aykerem

  11. The Eritrean one!
    | #11

    IN all honesty I do not know much of the history of the so called king of the kings in Ethiopia and particularly Tigry. In my day today live and as peace loving individual all that I’m witnessing from the so called representatives of Tigry is, A- betrayal for their own people, friends, neighbors, and compatriots, B- taken the whole region of the horn of Africa back to the future- a future of so much hatretisim that would make the Ruwanda case as a honeymoon between Tutsi vs. Hutus, and C- selling their own people and land for the highest bidder. In all honest and in my opinion what leaders of Tigry are interests are short lived but the consiquences will lead to generational tormoil. I believe the Yohannes era of betrayal of his own people and friends carried for some times and now we are awaiting what the betrayal of Meles and his boss Bereket Simon would do for the next generation. I believe it will be much more worse than that of Yohannes tribalist era.

  12. እውነት ይነገር
    | #12

    በታሪክ ቁርሾ ተሰንቃችሁና ተበርዛችሁ የፖለቲካ ቀንዳችሁ ማን ይችለዋል?
    ለማንኛውም በስደት ኑሮዋችሁ የተማራችሁት ጠቃሚ ነገር አለመኖሩን ቓንቃቹሁና መልዕክታችሁ በደንብ ይገልጻል

  13. ECONOMIC GENOCIDE
    | #13

    @ ordofa, are you shabia or arab wannabe north sudanese?if you are oromo i would be careful in your position because since you migrated from kenya recently some cruel ethiopians could deport you.by the way south sudan plans to export its oil to neighbours and said it can build pipeline for few million dollars to link it with existing pipeline at oldoret,north kenya,just 200 km.

  14. Sheger
    | #14

    Ordofaa, p l e a s e………go to Kenya or some thing.

  15. Ordofaa
    | #15

    To Economic Genocide!!!!

    It seems that you are getting worried and restless about my Oromiyaa’s pending independence in 2014. If you keep complaining about that, we may have to shorten that time on you. I highly suggest to you now to prepare yourself for that moment. If you don’t have any problem with our inevitable independence in just few years, then you don’t have to worry about it. Just start mastering our language Oromifaa now and you will be ok. And you will be given an Oromo name also. Otherwise, I highly suggest to you that you start packing and leave my Oromiyaa now. You will be gently deported and you should take all your prostitutes and leprosy along with you also. You see, we did not have prostitution problem until you came over with it about 100 years ago. Just look at your women. More than 85% of them engage in some forms of prostitution at home and where they live around the globe. They infected our unsuspecting and innocent youth with all kinds of venereal diseases including the Aids virus. You folks are nothing but menace. Leave my Oromiyaa now. And make sure to piggybag all those Oromo lackeys like Dumksas, Meraras and Aba Dulas with you. Leave starting now because My Oromiyaa will be a new and independent nation in 2014 or sooner. Out of my sight!!!!!

  16. ECONOMIC GENOCIDE
    | #16

    ato eskinder, here is an issue you should write about next time,a so-called jonglei canal egypt and south sudan have agreed to build (or complete) late march this year bypassing the sudd swamps in order to prevent water from evaporating and share it equally between the two.experts warn that that will lead to reduced rainfall in west ethiopia such as welega,kefa and ilubabor. can we take that seriously?

  17. YEMM
    | #17

    meles says he is from the gold race, ordoffa says he is from the german race – eeh eeh eeh; the rest of us are lepers and prostitutes. Here comes Hitler to exterminate us. Get ready guys, ordoffa is here.

  18. Motima
    | #18

    This is to warn you that the guy “Ordofaa” is a troll and compare what he posted here at
    “July 9th, 2011 at 21:36 | #8 ” is the same as below at another Ethiopian site.

    This guy is a troll.

    http://nazret.com/blog/index.php/2011/07/09/cheers-as-south-sudan-s-flag-is-raised

    Comment from: Ordofaa [Visitor]*****

    Oromia will be the very next newest nation with in 3 years from now!!! Mark my word for it. My gallant fighters in OLA and ever tenacious leaders in and around OLF have already liberated more than 60% of my Oromia. I am going to send a note to the UN General Secretary Mr. Ban Ki Moon on Monday to reserve a seat for the coming-soon newest Nation of Oromia. Oromia…What a sweet name!!!! The only people who get frightened by the it’s name are the Tigrayans and Amharas. We will show them how to transform a nation from being called ‘developing or underdeveloped’ into a nation fully developed in less than 10 years. That will be in record time. That is because the DNA and brain of my Oromia people is totally different from that of the lazy Tigrayans and Amharas. Just look at them. They claim to be an independent nation for more than 3,000 years but what they mastered in those 3,000 years is how to become efficient beggars and pan handlers. But we are like our close cousin Germans. We will get rid of any backwardness in all aspects of modern life in less than 10 years. I call upon all Oromo scientists, engineers, academics and entrepreneurs who have made their home every where in the world to start packing now. Three years is not a long time. I know there are tens of thousands Oromos whose skills have been well proven by their ground-breaking achievements working for governments and top-notch companies all over the world.Oromia will be the 194th nation to join the Unite Nations Organization. I have made an oath to myself and my children that I will walk 50 miles from where I live now to Dulles airport to board my flight to Finefine on that glorious Independence Day!!!! Mark my word for it!!!!!Congratulations South Sudan!!! We are right behind you!!!!!07/10/11 @ 13:48

  19. DRAMA
    | #19

    IT IS SAD TO SEE ANOTHER AFRICAN NATION GOING INTO PIECES WHEN DEMOCRACY CAN PUT THEM TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF THE SUDANESE PAST HISTORY AND RACIAL OR ETHNIC DIFFERENCES. ALL THIS IS DONE TO QUENCH THE OIL THIRST OF THE SHRUD CAUCASIAN. HERE IS THE NEW FORMULA THE CAUCASIAN IS USING.

    CREATE CRISIS, CALL IT GENOCIDE, AND CREATE A HISTORY IN THE MAKING TO USE IT TO DIVIDE THE TARGETED INTEREST IN FEW YEARS FROM THE STRONG HOLD OF THE COUNTRY MEN SO WE TAP INTO THE RESOURCE….. THAT IS IT. SIMPLE. THIS WOULD BE CAUCASIAN PLAN A. IF PLAN A DOESN’T WORK THEN THEY WILL CREATE CAUCASIAN PLAN B AND C AND D …. UNTIL THE AFRICAN WAKES UP LIKE THE CHINESE.

    LOOK WHAT PROPOGANDA IS BEING USED IN ETHIOPIA. WHERE DOES THE MEDIAS WANT TO SAY GENOCIDE EXISTS IN ETHIOPIA??? OGADEN OR GAMBELLA. WHY THERE IS OIL IN GAMBELLA AND NATURAL GAS + OIL IN OGADEN. SO THEY HAVE BEEN MUMBLING ABOUT THIS FAKE AND REAL (INDIRECTLY ARTIFICIAL) CRISIS IN THESE TWO REGIONS. WHY? THEY WANT TO TAP. SO FOR SOME OF YOU THAT WANT TO HAVE A CUT IN THE WEALTH, YOU BETTER THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH.

  20. DRAMA
    | #20

    AND DUMMIES LIKE ORDOFFA KEEP ON BLOBBING.
    LET ME GIVE YOU THE NEWS ORDOFFA. YOU ARE BEING FOOLED BY MELES TO BELIEVE THE IMAGINARY (NOT REAL) BORDERS.
    1. FINFINE IS NOT OROMIGNA. IT COMES FROM THE WORD FIN OR EFIN. EFIN WUYA OR GEYSER (HOT SPRING). JUST BECAUSE SOME CALL IT ADDIS ABABA TODAY DOESN’T MEAN FINFINE IS OROMO SPEAKING LAND.
    2. MORE SHOCKINGLY TO YOU ADAMA IS NOT OROMIGNA AND NOT AN ORIGINAL OROMO SPEAKING HABITAT. ADAMA MEANS RED SOIL. KING ADAMA IS ALSO NAMED AFTER THE BIBLICAL KING ADAMA, WHEN THE ARK OF COVENANT WAS BEING HIDDEN IN THE ISLANDS OF ZEWAY BY THE GEEZ SPEAKING PEOPLE FROM ENEMIES. AGAIN JUST BECAUSE NAZRET EXISTS, DOESN’T MEAN ADAMA IS OROMIGNA OR OROMO LAND. SO THE NEW LESSON FOR YOU WOULD BE THAT FINFINE AND ADAMA ARE NOT OROMIGNA. DO YOU EVEN SPEAK OROMIGNA? PLEASE DON’T SPEAK FOR OTHER OROMOS BECAUSE YOU ARE A DISGRACE. THE LAND OF ETHIOPIANS HAVE BEEN KNOWN FOR CENTURIES. IF YOU WANT OROMO LAND, YOU HAVE TO SEEK IT AT SOME IMAGINARY LATITUDE. MAYBE BY 89 DEGREES AND 6 SECONDS IN THE ARCTIC ZONE.

  21. Ordofaa
    | #21

    To you Motima and Drama!!!

    One of you called me a troll and the other one gabbled up these illusory deductions of the names of some of the places in my beloved Oromiyaa. First of all I am not a troll. I am using my real name for that matter because I have no fear of telling the truth and the inevitable as it is. What is wrong with the idea of telling people like you two the pending liberation of Oromiyaa? What is wrong with that? It is already more than 60% liberated. If you don’t believe me just go to many rural and small towns in Eastern, Western, Southern and Northern Oromiyaa. Will you find one Neftegna official? No!!! Do you find one Tigrayan official? The answer is again no!!! You will find our gallant OLA fighters and the people working hand and gloves in their everyday lives.

    And you Drama!!! Where did concoct this hodgepodge of etymology? King Adama what? You are such a poor soul so desperate that you are lying and day-dreaming. Why don’t you try to claim Seattle, Frankfurt, Hong Kong, Santiago, Chile, London and Manhattan. They all derived from Geez!!!! If Finfine is an Abyssinian word, then why the need to change it to this ugly name, Addis Ababa? New Flower? Kkkkkkkkk!!! That tells you that the Abyssinians who gave it such a name was so exalted by the sight of beautiful flowers in the ever-beautiful Oromiyaa and what he/she has never seen in her native Abyssinia. Abyssinia was barren then and ugly barren now.

    In regards to my posting same comments on different websites, what is wrong with heralding the inevitable liberation of Oromiyaa by any media means available? That is called democracy. You see you Abyssinians have problems coming into grips with the reality of democratic life. We Oromos have had the basic tenets of democratic rights enshrined in our Gada system for centuries until you Abyssinians came over and colonized us by force. So that is new not to us. I am so indebted by the websites who let my announcement ride on their esteemed websites. They let me perform the deeds of Paul Revere who shouted out to the people of New England that the British were coming to lay a siege to their towns and domiciles. I am telling you all now as loud as I can that Oromiyaa is set to be the next newest independent nation of the world. And you don’t have to worry about it. We are a very tolerant and generous people.

    You two guys/gals seem to be troublesome to my people and soon-to-be-independent Oromiyaa. Therefore, I highly suggest you start packing now leave my Oromiyaa

  22. yebbo
    | #22

    ordoffa; please don’t preach to us about democracy. come back to your senses; if you have any. Anybody with a bit of understanding about democracy would not write like you do on this and other web pages.

    First of all you like to associate yourself with what you call your German cousins. This shows you hate who you are. I have never heared any African calling himself a German, or having a German blood. Where do you stand?

    I think your mixed personality is what is causing you to be a hate monger and a mass murderer in waiting. Indeed, your German cousin, Hitler,s mission was to make everyone a slave to the ‘aryan race’. May be that is your ambition. But do you know what happened to Hitler. I bet you know the answer. Be warned you are under observation. Your foul mouth won’t get you anywhere.

  23. Ordofaa
    | #23

    To Yebbo and all others like him:
    Where did you get this idea that I have a hatred toward others who are not from my nationality? I did not say I hate Amharas or Tigrayans or for that matter anyone. All I was telling you was my conclusion about the coming soon independence of Oromiyaa. We will have commendable diplomatic relationships with all our neighbors that will include the state of Amhara Republic in the future. But we will demand reparations commensurate with the damage done by your grandfathers and possibly by your fathers to our people and property since the 1870′s. We will pursue this legal action peacefully and using international venues. We can make an amicable arrangement for the payment so that it will not be very painful to you and your people. 15% of your GDP for the next 130 years will be acceptable. Remember this is not the first time that nations paid their debt this way. Haiti had been paying the French government compensation for damages the Haitian people inflicted on the French and their properties during the liberation uprising. It was spread out over 100 years. That continued well into the years after WWII. You see we are greedy like any colonizer.
    Again, I did not say I hate you. Declaration of an impending independence does not convey to import hatred toward others.
    Independence is coming!! Independence is coming!!! Independence is coming to Oromiyaa!!!!!!! There you have it. You have enough warning.

  24. toKenya
    | #24

    @ yebbo, you dont have to babysit,be polite or discuss with ormos of that guys attitude,you only need to deport them back to kenya.these days even whites in south africa and america are told to go back to europe although compared to ormos in ethiopia they live much longer in those countries and built up the countries.

  25. Ordofaa
    | #25

    To toKenya!!!
    Deport them what?!!!! I bet you that you are an Oromo who is trying his best to assimilate with his colonizer masters. Also, I bet you this: When Oromiyaa is finally liberated and becomes an independent nation, you will be one of those who will trample over others to be one of the first ones to go back there. We know you all lackeys. Sorry home boy..you will be late, too late trying the get your first dips. My proud Oromo people are already there and are well represented by the glorious freedom fighters of OLF and OLA. Stay where you are now along with those sycophant Aba Dulas, Dumuksa, Meraras, Deresas and all the rest of them. My people have seen you licking the crummy soup cans the Woayanes gave it to you. You have disgusted my glorious people. Where did you get the stomach to chow down the left overs that this dog face Meles and his socialite Azaba handed out to you? These two and their cohorts crawled out of nothing but utter barren and grew up on cactus tree. I remember one stonehead store owner Tigrayan telling an uniformed customer how green is the province he came from. He was telling that his region is known for its white teff and butter and honey flow like a gushing creek. I was laughing until it hurts man. If not for the missionaries who brought cactus trees to Tigray and the rest of the northern part of dreaded Abyssinia in the 18 century, there would not be a single Tigrayan who would have survived the constant famine. I had seen it and it is all barren. I never felt so desperate and hopeless when I was in Makele and Axum in the early 70′s. I stayed two days each in Makele and Axum, It was(is) barren all around, I proceeded on to Eritrea and when I arrived in Asmara, it was like going from one of those South American slums and to down town San Diego. It was hog’s heaven. I heard that things are not going well there in Eritrea after another Tigrayan took power.
    So stay where you are and keep you long tongue licking the bread crumbs Woyane handed out to you.
    Oromiyaa will be free!!! Oromiyaa will be independent in 3 years!!!!!!!!

  26. Selamu
    | #26

    Ordofaa, Independant Oromia was in your dream for the last 35 years. Now, you are well into your Ganja, that you cut the Liberation day by 3 years. Why don’t you think like a grown up. Your childish talk about this land is more beautifull than the others etc. is just nonsense. By the way , it is shameful to talk about being colonized by the people you despise most.

  27. ጉረኞች
    | #27

    Abugida
    You are not doing what you claim are doing, to protect the site from vulgar language of Woyane and Shabia. You are screening out substantive ideas when it does not suit your view, you are not posting it. It is much better and ethical to defend your views rather than censoring and killing sensible debates. Racist Ordofa who is insulting the entire Ethiopian population is having field day in this site. What kind of lopsided logic you using, only God knows. Time will come when Ethiopia’s glory rise up!!!

  28. Ordofaa
    | #28

    To ጉረኞች:
    Why should I be censored? I did not I hate any ethnic group. I was telling things that have happened and about to happen as they are in their natural form and content. What is wrong with Oromiyaa becoming an Independent nation? There will be new republics of Amahara, Tigray, Afar, Oromiyaa, The Ogaden along with The Federal Republic of the Omotic People. These republics will form a common market organization where in each member country will have equal vote(voice). And We don’t label every Amhara and Tigrayan a neftegna. This badge is reserved for those who subjugated our people by force. And remember my people in Oromiyaa are deeply devout and compassionate people be it Muslims, Christians or otherwise. So am I. I am telling you what is going to happen within the next few years so you will be ready for it. It is already happening. Just go back and look at it yourself. You will not find one Neftegna breathing on the shoulders of my people. It is reported that they are organizing some where in Makele, Amara Sayint, Asmara and overseas. Good luck with that.
    In the meanwhile, I would like to extend a cordial invitation to you and your friends to our colorful Oromo Soccer Tournament that will kick off this weekend. You will be expose to and enjoy our culture and hospitality. It will take place at Griffin Stadium in St. Paul, Minnesota beginning this weekend. You will enjoy our music, food and above all our world famous courtesy. I really mean it. Come on over.
    Try to picture this: The Republic of Oromiyaa, Republic of Amhara, Republic of Tigray, Republic of Afar, Republic of Ogaden(ia), The Federal Republic of the Omotic People, all independent and peacefully coexisting. Don’t be too emotional. Rather think about it. Wake Up!!!! I am accosting you!!!! Wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    In conclusion, I once again commend the editors of Abugida profusely for being so fair to me with my truthful comments. There will be enshrined in our hearts and places as being the Righteous among Abyssinians. And don’t you dare chastise them for that since they are performing their duties and fulfilling their obligations as guardians of public forum. Kudos to them!!!!!

  29. ጉረኞች
    | #29

    Ordoffa
    My disgust was not on you, I can effectively rebut your diatribe be it in vulgar words or rational debate. The world will not be spicy if fringe elements like you do not exist. I remember in my childhood my neighborhood entertainer was a wacko his brain does not function well. We used to miss him when he is not roaming around the neighborhood. I do not see you any different from him. My disgust was on Abugida site administrator who deliberately censored my post several times in the past and recently, on this particular post. Don’t worry, my post was not about you, it was about the most needed reform in the old guard leadership of OLF and MEDREK. I brought your name to point out how ridiculous posting are allowed. I do not have any problem with real Oromos. I do not insult any of them even they choose to practice the most harmful and primitive rituals ever. I do have an identifier that suits you well, as you have for neftegnas, for your kind of people. I do not want to confuse you by calling you Oromo since that name is given to Ethiopians. The real name for racist fringe element is Galla who keen of mutilating stuff than doing anything constructive …. If you want a war of name calling, ask your Abugida support to let the “stage” free. Hope this message will find you well, if they do not kill it as usual.

  30. Bovril
    | #30

    ordoffa, I think most people even in Africa have come a long way from tribal and clan politics which you are advocating. You live in the most advanced industral society, you have seen democracy at work and yet you think like a feudal lord in the 16th century. Bantustanisation of A COUNTRY ON ETHNIC AND RACIAL LINES IS REMINISCENT OF THE APARTHIED REGIME IN SOUTH AFRICA. It is dead and buried.
    No right thinking people would prefer it as a way of governing themselves.

    Your segregation policy would deny many citizens the benefit that would come from a pluralist society. What is wrong with, for example, an oromo doctor helping poor farmers in afar region. The main point is that people get treated for their illness. No one in their right mind would turn away a doctor only because he is not from thier tribe or ethnic group, when the priority is to save a life. Can you see the point.

    What is wrong with a tigrei or amhara business man living and working in the somali region,he creates jobs and transfers skills benefiting the whole country.

    Why do you want to kick out people from one area simply because they happen to be different ethnic groups from you.

    What you should be promoting is the idea of a free and fair system in Ethiopia where freedom, democracy and justice become the mainstay of the country. Look at how such a system works perfectly in the developed world. there is no repression of people on the basis of their race, ethnicity,colour or relegion. there is no divide and rule.everyone is treated fairly under the law of the country. people are judged by their merit only and not on the basis of their colour, ethinc allegiance or tribal loyalty.

    I call upon you and the likes of you to join the fight for democracy and justice for all the people of Ethiopia. Sowing the seed of hate and and segregation is unproductive.

  31. Ordofaa
    | #31

    Dear ጉረኞች:

    You called me a ‘Galla’ and I still love you as a human being. And you did not say that to me face to face. And please leave the folks at Abugida alone. They are fulfilling their journalistic duties to the utmost degree. I See it now that they are printing your comment not one but I see two of them right here. They are one those who we consider members of The Righteous.

    So are you coming to our soccer tournament in St. Paul,Minnesota this weekend? Like I said before, you will be taken aback by the courtesy of my Oromo people. We will have food, Music and lectures for everyone. Come on over.

    The Republic of Oromiyaa is coming!!! The Republic of Amhara is coming!! The Republic of Ogadenia is coming!! The Republic of Tigray is coming!! The Republic of The Omotic People is coming!!!!!

  32. Ordofaa
    | #32

    To Bovril:

    When and where did I say that in the new Republic of Oromiyaa minorities will not be allowed to make a living? You see your problem is thinking that everyone else is just like you. We Oromos are very fair and tolerant people. We don’t scheme to hurt and humiliate others. But I guarantee you this: Neftegnas’s days are over and will be politely asked to leave. If you have all the qualifications that meet the standards established by the new Republic of Oromiyaa, we will give you a green card so you can stay and work. If you can’t find work within 90 days, then it will be very difficult for you to live. It will be better for you to go back to the new Republic of Tigray or Amhara and you may have a better luck to find work. These two nations will be very capable republics and they will take care of you better. Again, I never said we will be mean to others. That is not our culture never was and never will be.
    he Republic of Oromiyaa is coming!!! The Republic of Amhara is coming!! The Republic of Ogadenia is coming!! The Republic of Tigray is coming!! The Republic of The Omotic People is coming!!!!!

  33. Beya
    | #33

    dear ordoffaaa,

    we leave you in peace to enjoy your oromo soccer.

  34. ጉረኞች
    | #34

    Ordoffa
    You think that you are playing smart psychological game with Abugida. Your guess is as good as mine when it comes what kind of write-ups Abugida wants to censor. If I was them, I wouldn’t allow any racist write-ups. Only civilized political debate would have been allowed. I do not think your few write-ups qualify for civilized political debate. It was all my people, my people, my people…. full of empty bravado. As far as I’m concerned all Ethiopians including what you claim to be your people are down trodden poor people suffering from disease, poverty, starvation, illiteracy, not to mention lack of democracy and rule of law. You name it all evils are hovering on them. Talk your glory to other citizens who do not know that part of the world.
    As to the invitation to soccer tournament, I’ve seen it before. Unfortunately, I was not impressed at all, unless they have made dramatic change since then, which I really doubt. Few hundred running around with too much colorful clothing stuff. At any rate, it is no match like all Ethiopian ESFNA soccer tournaments or the recently created Ethiopian Heritage foundation. Actually, I can safely say with the Ethiopian soccer tournaments have no match in the entire USA (no bias intended). No other African nations have a successful gathering like Ethiopians do.

    BTW, that crazy dude I mentioned to you in my neighborhood, believe it or not, his name was ወርዶፋ., only one letter difference from your name. I’m serious, no joke. I got a kick out of that. Take care and enjoy your soccer game.

  35. Ordofaa
    | #35

    Dear ጉረኞች:

    See…you and I on friendly terms. I can talk to you and you don’t mind to have a word or two with me. That will be exactly the same kind relationship our Glorious Oromiyaa Republic is going to forge with your Amhara or Tigray Republics. You will work very hard to develop your country and we will do the same in our mint fresh Oromiyaa. Our republics will be neighbors like India and China or Japan and South Korea or even better like USA and Canada. Our constitution will be just like a carbon copy of the US Constitution. I will tell you our hammers and sickles will be making sweet sounds of hard work in all our new republics where guns and law enforcement will be committed to the maintenance of peace and stability in the entire area. What is wrong with this kind of arrangement about to happen in just a few years? You see you and I have clicked now. My invitation to you to grace us with your presence at our glorious soccer tournament kicking off this weekend still stands. Come on and be a part of it. See it from inside. Don’t judge a book by its cover.

  36. ጉረኞች
    | #36

    Ordoffa
    kkkkkkk I’m glad we are in good terms. The only inalienable right any dictators can not take away from us is dreaming. I can’t imagine what will happen to us if they take it away from us. Life will even be more boring.
    Take care

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