Scottish vote and Oromia case in Ethiopia By Admasu Belay

September 19th, 2014 Print Print Email Email

In recent days, we have been hearing a lot about the Scottish referendum to secede from the UK. Particularly, some of our Oromo politician friends in the diaspora have made it the hot topic of the month. Knowing how ridiculous it is to compare “Oromia” to Scotland, many Ethiopians ignore the matter. But sometimes it is better to address it. We need to set some basic facts straight. The idea of “Oromia” state recently created by TPLF/OPDO is completely different from the scottish state. Below are five of the reasons.

First of all, the “Kingdom of Scotland” existed many centuries ago as an independent state. In contrast, there never existed before a “Kingdom of Oromo.” In fact, there never existed a kingdom of Amara or even a country called Amara, Afar, Oromo, Gurage etc. None of these ever existed in history. TPLF was the first to manufacture this ideo of “Oromia state.” Even 400 years ago, the Oromo speaking people lived side by side with other Ethiopians. Some Oromos lived in isolated Gibe settlements but most northern Oromos were citizens of the former multi-ethnic Abyssinia state since the 1600s & 1700s. So even before Menelik expanded his rule, there was never one united Oromo country.

Secondly, economically and socially scotland is completely different from the TPLF made Oromia state. Thanks to the past emperors giving priority to Shewa province, the center or Oromia (now Shoa zone) is also the economic center of the whole country. Most of the Ethiopian state’s infrastructure and federal institutions are located in central Oromia. In contrast, Scotland is not the economic center of the UK.

Thirdly, Oromia and Scotland are very different geographically. Due to scotland’s long independent state history, it has clear boundaries and borders. Another benefit is the UK being an island, the secession of scotland does not create much border dispute with any third party states. In contrast, “Oromia state” would have borders with half dozen other states. And most of Oromia’s territories and borders are disputed with the ogadeni/somalis, sidamas and many neighboring states. Some wild Oromo politicians even claim that north Kenya, Gambella and south Tigray are part of Oromia. Nobody really knows the real boundaries.

Fourth difference is the historical land of “Oromia” itself. Who are the original inhabitants of Oromia? The old sidama communities, the Gurage sultanates of shoa, original Damot people of western welega and others would see Oromos as invaders who immigrated there in the 1500s and 1600s. So the question would arise, how can Oromo settlers claim the land previously owned by other people?

The fifth and the last difference between the scottish claim and Oromo claim is regarding Addis Ababa vs scotland’s capital city Edinburgh. Just like most of central Oromia, its capital city Addis Ababa is also the capital city of Ethiopia. In contrast, the Scottish capital city Edinburgh is not the political center of the UK. Edinburgh can request separation from London, but how can London separate from London? Thats what it would appear if Oromia attempts to secede. So even the mere thought of Oromia secession is ridiculous. It defies common sense. Just like the wise Oromo politician Bulcha Demeksa once said, branches can fall off the tree first, but the stem can not fall off the branches nor can the stem fall off the tree. Oromia is the stem of Ethiopia. This is another reason why many people say the whole Oromo secession ideology is an insult to the intelligence of Oromo people. It was created to distract Oromos. Our politicians should stop weakening Oromo people with these nonsense and unrealistic dreams of secession.

It is high time for all Oromos to direct their energy and unite their forces together with other Ethiopians and fight for democracy together. The minority and tribal TPLF dictatorship will not be defeated if we are always divided.

Every moment that passes with Oromos wasting their time on socialist and backward tribal ideologies is another day and another year wasted. How many more years will Oromos waste? Many generations have been wasted already. Look at Ghana and other African countries that have many more ethnicities than Ethiopia but they succeeded because they put individual liberty and democracy ahead over tribe. There is no reason why we Ethiopians can not do the same. Let us transfer peace and democracy to the next generation.

  1. Settler
    | #1

    Right, it is ridiculous, ignorant and provocative to compare Scotland with so-called oromia. The oromos who raise such issues are troublemakers and perhaps also foreign agents and should be asked to go back to where they came from 300 years ago (what was the name of our southern neighbour ?). And as recent publications and this article tell, most of those we call oromos are not ethnic oromos but ancient Ethiopians who were forced to adopt oromo language and identity. So there is no historical right for a land of oromos in Ethiopia but such right exists in our southern neighbours. Look the jews returned to Israel two thousand or so years after they were forcefully removed from there by the Babylonians i guess, the oromos left (they say they were forced to leave their homeland by bantus and somalis) their homeland only recently in comparison, few centuries ago, and they can return there just like the jews.

  2. Dawit
    | #2

    Very well said
    Oromos are wasting time and they are pulling us backward. If it wasnot for oromos in eprdf and opdo, woyane would die fast death. Look at UK they never use tribal federalism even if scotland want autonomy, they care more about individual rights

  3. dodo
    | #3

    The “Oromo Kilil”is a fictional entity created by the evil TPLF to create a division between their hated Amaras and their “gullible” Oromos. Even the name “Oromo” was introduced by the Derg (which was being ideolgically led by the Oromo dominated MEISONE. Before that the language was called “Afan Oromo” and the people called Galla, a name which prominent Galla like the powerful Minister of the Imperial government, Lij Yilma Deressa, clearly stated in his important book that “he was proud to be called a Galla”


  4. aha!
    | #4

    The ideology of ethnic federalism, secessionism and totalitarianism and/or state capitalism, a prelude to secessionism/ethic nationalism, and prevailing ethnic cleansing of certain ethnic groups at the pretext of ethnic homelands, built into the constitution was the creation of TPLF, as the major architect of the constitution, directly supported by the teletafi parties and indirectly supported by the loyalist opposition parties, that distinctly separated political organizations in positive forces of integration and negative forces of disintegration; looked at from modular perspective of ethnic and national agenda of party alignments. The goals for those with ethnic agenda is centered around ethnic federalism, secessionism, totalitarianism and/or state capitalism with nominal autonomy, where the loyalist opposition parties are embracing the goals for ethnic rights, “yekilil mengistats ikulent mebit mekeber”, democracy and human rights as a common denominator to all ethnic groups, while upholding the ideologies in the constitution, separating them from those with national agenda with the goals for unity, territorial integrity, sovereignty of Ethiopia and Ethiopians, where the last item refers to individual freedom, liberty and equality to super cede ethnic and secessionist rights as a pretext for a democratic society, democracy and democratic rule rather than the current ethnic rule, minority rule to a future majority rule or using the TPLF demarcated ethnic home lands to secede.

  5. aha!
    | #5

    Thanks for citing Bulcha Demeksa as regards to secessionism, where he used the same analogy I have been using in discussing ethnic politics in the internet media, where the Amhara or the Oromo ethnic group is the root and the Amhara or the Oromo ethnic group is the stem, and the others in terms of size are bigger and smaller branches of a tree, each with its own distinct functions, living harmoniously together as one organism, despite the bizzare ideology created by the elites from the those ethnic agenda. While Bulcha Demeksa may be cited against secessionism, he supports ethnic federalism/ethnic homelands from Borena Negelle to Sellale, Nekemte wolege to Kotu Harrarge, from Jima, Kefa to Shoa Adama, by saying “we have problem with ethnic federalism, but we do not want them (TPLF) to dictate over us, in support of the status quo, but reversed to ethnic majority rule by virtue of being majority ethnic group, politics driven by elites educated on the back of the silent majority of Ethiopians, bent on ethnic agenda rather than national agenda by abandoning ethnic and ethnic and secessionist politics and/policies inscribed in the constitution with TPLF at helm of ruling Polit Bureau, with the teletafi parties as suppoters and killil administrators as implementers of ethnic federalism, secessionism and totalitarianism and or state capitalism, as an economic model and security, and federal police forces as enforcers of the constitution against those with national agenda, who believe that Ethiopian land mass belongs to all Ethiopians, while living intact the original provincial boundaries with assorted ethnic groups including Addis Ababa in tact and developing the country along ecological regions as remedial scenario with individual freedom as the focal point of the new constitution and independent branches of government.

  6. Kkkk
    | #6


  7. Gragane/Garaad/Gure
    | #7

    I am both dismayed and puzzled by Professor Admasu Belay’s historical parallel between Scotland and Oromyia. His claim of Finfine, which is under siege for decades as the capital city of Ethiopia sounds like Egyptians claim to the source of Tiss Abay (Bhaar Daar) or Ethiopians claim of Bhara Negash (Eritrea) until 1991 or TPLF’s claim of Debera Tabor as their land because Yohannes IV crowned himself as Emperor of Tigray in that hamlet. By the inverted logic of Admasu modern Ethiopia should have all countries of Horn of Africa all the way to Yemen. In this age and the age to come if there are Ethiopians who subscribe to Admasu’s world view, they must live under the cave not to know that nations can separate or united clearly on defined lines. That said it all.

  8. Anonymous
    | #8

    ምኞት አይቀርም; ምንም

  9. Anonymous
    | #9

    What ever you guys throw up out of fear,it is not up to you.when the time comes like it or not you will die burning .

    | #10

    ማዕርነት ብምፍራሕን ማዕርነት ንኸይመፅእን ንምክልኻልን ዝቐርብ “ANALYSIS” ኹሉ ዞይሩ-ዘይሩ ናይ ህዝቢ ጥቕሚ ዘሕሉ ከይኮነስ ናይ ግሊ ትምኒት ዘንፀባርቕ “ያዙኝ-ልቀቁኝ” ጥራሕ እዩ:: ህዝቢ ኦሮሞ ብፍላይ ብዛዕባ ዝሓለፈ ዘመነ ጭሰኝነት ንኸማሩሩን እንደገና’ውን ኽፉእ ስርዓት ንኸይመፅኦም ንኽከላኸሉን ዝዓበየ መሰሎም ከምዝኾነ ኹሉ ኢትዮጵያዊ ክኣምነሎምን ኣብ ጎኖም ጠጠው ክብልን ይግባእ:: ኢትዮጵያውያን ብኸምዙይ ዓይነት መንገዲ ምስ ዝርድእዎም ጥራሕ እዮም ኦሮማውያን’ውን እንተኾኑ ምስቶም ዝርድእዎም ካልኦት ኢትዮጵያውያን ሓቢሮም ንኽነብሩ ዝደልዩ:: ዝኾነ ኢትዮጵያዊ ዝኾነ ዓይነት ተፅዕኖ ከቕምጠሎም ብዝብገሰሉ እዋናት ግና እቲኦም ደቂ ኦሮሞ ንተፅዕኖ መምፅኢ ክርሕቕዎ ጥራሕ ስለዝምነዩስ, ብናይ ዝተረፍና ኢትዮጵያውያን ሸነኽ ንናይ ኦሮሞ ኾነ ናይ ካልኦት ህዝቢ ኢትዮጵያ መሰል ምኽባር ተግባር ተቐዳሚ ክኸውን ይግብኦ:: ከምኡ ምስዝኸውን ጥራሕ እዩ ኣይኮነን’ዶ ኣብ ግዝኣት ናይ ሎሚ ኢትዮጵያ ዘለዉ, ካልኦት ህዝብታት ከማን ከይተረፉ ምስ ኢትዮጵያውያን ተሓዊሶም ክነብሩ ዝደልዩ……………….!!

  11. woyane is in crisis -politically and financially?
    | #11

    የትኛው የፖለቲካ ድርጅት አላችሁና ታናፋላችሁ
    የስኮትላንድ አይነት ቀርቶ የወያኔን ያክል ሳትደራጁ የኦሮሞን ድርጅትና ሌላውንም ልትሰድቡ ትዳዳላችሁ
    እውነት መናገር ካስፈለገ እንደናንተ አይነት ሃላፊነት የጎደለው ጸሀፊ ነን ባይ ሁሉ በሕዝብ ስሜት ላይ ይረማመዳል
    ወያኔ አገር ሲያመስና ሲያስገብሮ ስለኦሮሞ ድርጅት ታወራላችሁ
    ወንድ ከሆንክ ወያኔን ታገል ካለበሊዚያ የወያኔ ፕሮፓጋንዳ አራጋቢ ነህ
    ራሳችንን በምእራቡ ፓለቲካ አንጻር አቻ አርጎ ማየት የራስን ሕዝብ ኢኮኖሚያዊ ፓለቲካዊ ማህበራዊ ግንኙነት አለማጤን ያሳያል
    መላ የፐለቲካ ድርጅታችን በውጭ ርዳታ ተሸብቦ እንካን ተቃዊሚው ይቅርና ስልጣን ላይ ያለው መንግስት በቁሙ በኢንተርፓል ባለስልጣኖቹ ሲፈለጉ ትንፍሽ አላለም የምእራብ መንግስት ካልፈለገው አሽቀንጥሮ እንደሚወረውረው ያውቃል
    የኢትዮ አንድነት ከተናጋ 23 አመት አልፎታል
    በኦሮሞ ድርጅት ለማሳበ መሞከር የራስን ሃላፊነት መርሳት ነው
    በግርግር የወያኔን አጀንዳ አታራምዱ

  12. kagnew
    | #12

    First of all , what the Ethiopian people need to learn is to live together in a civilised manner with respect for every human human being., and then you can discuss about democracy, referendum etc. you need at least 200 years to reach the level of democracy UK/Scotland is.

    democracy has to be experienced, it cannot be imported or be cut and pasted. It is a process that develops over many many years.

    Scotland is a hetrogenous society consisting of all races and groups and relegions from all over the world like the rest of the UK is. Their form of nationalism is different from ethno-fascism we find in Ethiopia /Africa. therefore we cannot put Africa/Ethiopia on the same footing as Scotland/UK.

    for example TPLf main political agenda has been to create ethnic homelands based on language. you have to be oromo to be in oromo region, tigre to live in tigre region, somali has to live in a somali region etc etc. in this sort of situation people are completely alienated from each other even though in name they live in one country , Ethiopia.
    woyane is trying to make sure that people remain separated and have nothing in common. having divided the people into ethnic groups and regions the fascist woyane mis-rule and loot the country with ease.

    Instead of creating unity the woyane divide and incite inter-ethnic and relegious violence. If people cannot even live together in peace how can they talk about democracy , let alone choose what is best for them.

  13. ኦሮምትቻ
    | #13

    ይህ አቶ አድማሱ የተባሉ ጸሓፊ ምነው እንዲያው በቅዘኑ ባያርመጠምጥ። ኦሮሞን እንደመጤ መቁጠርህ አይገርመኝም። ምክንያቱም በቤተ ክሪስቲያን አስተምህሮ ዘግናኝ የተባለውን ለረሳች ሁም ሰዎች ህሊና ሰቅጣጭ የ ሆነውን ድርጊት ለመፈጸም ኦሮሞን መጤ ብቻ ሳይሆንበ ፩፮ኛው ክ ዘመን ከውሃ የወጣ ለደረቅ መሬት እራሱ እንግዳ የሆነ ባዕድ ፍጡር ስትቆጥሩት ነበር።ኦሮሞን እንደ ባዕድ እየቆጠርካው በምን ስሌት ነው ካንተ ጋር ባንተ አስተሳሰብ እኳን እንደህዝብ እና ሀገር እውቅና የሰጠውን ወያኔን እንዲታገል ገ ጎንህ እንዲሰልፍ የምትጋብዘው። ይልቅስ ኦሮሞ ከ ውያኔ ጎን ተሰልፎ እንድ እናንተን እይንቶቹን የቀብሮ ጉድጓድ ውስጥ መጭመር ያለበት።
    ለመሆኑ አማራ ነባር እና መጤ የመላየት ስልጣን ማን ስጠው?ለመሆኑ አማራ ከየት ነው የመጣው ከደቡብ የመን ኣይደላምን?
    ለመሆኑ የ ራስን ዕድል በራስ መወሰን የኦሮሞ ጥያቄ ብቻ ማን አድረገው? እነዚህ ክልሎች ወያኔ የፈበረካቸው ናቸው ላላችሁት ለመሆኑ ከወያኔና ከ ኦነግ ማን ቀድሞ ተመሠረተ? ኦሮሚያ የሚኣባል መንግስት በታርክ ባይንር እንኳን ሕዝብ በመንኛውም ጊዜ መንግስት ሊመሠርት ይችላል አኮ። ከስማይ የወርደ መንግስት የለም ። መንግስት ይፈጠራል ይክስማል እንድገና ሌላ ይፍጠራል።ዛሬ የምናውቃት ኢትዮጲያም የዛሬ ፻ ዓመት ገደማ የተፈጠረችው ሀገር አልነበረችም መንግስት ምስረታ ጨርሶ እስከወዲያኛው የተዝጋ ፋይል አድርጉ ማየቱ እና የ ኦሮሞን ጥያቄ አስቂኝ አድትርጎ ማቅራቡ እነዚህ ኢትዮጲያን እንወክላለን የሚሉት ክፍሎች ምን ያህል ጨለማ ውስጥ እየዳከሩ መሆናቸውን ያሳያል። ለማንኛውም የናንተ ድንቁርን ለ ኦሮሞ ሕዝብ በጣም እድለኛ ነው። እናንት በቆራች ሁት ድንቁርና ውስጥ ስት ሰምጡ በሔር በሔረሰቦች በናንተ መቃበር ላይ ያድጋሉ። አንተ ግን የ ፈረንጅ ሽንት ቤትና አስፋልት ስትጠርግ እድሜህ ያልፋል።
    ስልዚህ ወያኔ የተከተለው ፌደራላዊ አወቃቀር በማንኛውም መስፈርት ሳይንሳዊ ነው። ምንም ቢሆን በምንም ተ ዓምር ኦሮሞ እደሰው የቆጠረውን ወያኔን እንደ አውሬ ከሚቆጥረው ሕዝብ ጋር አብሮ የሚውገብት ምንም ምክንያት የለውም። በርግጥ የ ኦሮሞ ሕዝብ እንዲረጋገጡለት መብቶች የሉትም ማለት አይደልም። በሂደት ይስተካከላሉ። ኦሮሞ አሁንም አምርሮ መፋለም ያለበት ለህልውናው አስጊ የሆኑትን የቀድሞ ስርዓት ናፋቂዎችና ርስርዦችን ነው

  14. አለም
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    የኦሮሞን ሕዝብ እንወክላለን የሚሉ የሥልጣን ጥመኞችና ነጋዴዎች ብቻ ናቸው:: የሚያሳፍሩ ወሬኞች ናቸው:: የሚገርመው ብዙዎቻችን ከቁምነገር ቆጥረናቸው እንጨነቃለን:: ተስፋዬ ገብረአብ የኦሮሞን ሕዝብ ስብዕና በስነጽሑፍ ደረጃ ያስከበርኩ እኔ ነኝ ሲል, አማርኛን በስነ ጽሑፍ ደረጃ እዚህ ያደረስን እኔ, ጸጋዬ ገ/መድኅንና በአሉ ግርማ ነን ሲል ሲያጨበጭቡ አይቼ ስስቅ ከረምኩ:: በኦሮሞ ስብሰባ ላይ ተስፋዬ በአማርኛ ንግግር ሲያደርግ, አማርኛ እኮ ቋንቋና መግባቢያ ነው ሲላቸው [ኦሮምኛ አያውቅማ], ኦሮሞ ነኝ ሲላቸው [ኢጆሌ ቢሾፍቱ], በጥሞና ሲያደምጡት አይቼ አቅም እንደሌላቸው ተረድቻለሁ:: እነዚሁ “መሪ” ነን የሚሉ ሌላው አሳዛኝ ጉዳይ, ለኤርትራ ዕቡይ አላማ መጫወቻ እየሆኑ እንዳሉ አለማወቃቸው ነው:: ለማንኛውም ሰፊውን የኦሮሞ ሕዝብና እንወክለዋለን የሚሉትን ጥቂቶች ለይተን ማየት አለብን:: ግንቦት 7ም የተለየ አይደለም:: ሰሞኑን ናአምን አትላንታ ላይ “ለኢትዮጵያውያን ከኤርትራ የተሻለ ደህንነታቸው የሚከበርበት ሥፍራ የለም” የሚል መግለጫ ሲሰጥ ሰምቼ እነዚህ ሰዎች አብደዋል ወይ? ስል ከረምኩ:: ለማንኛውም ሌላ ጊዜ በሰፊው እመለስበታለሁ::

  15. Tekeste
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    @ ኦሮምትቻ,
    excuse me for not replying in Amharic, i am not fluent.
    That said your comment is the most stupid,most irrational and most emotional of all. Who could you be ? An Oromo ? I doubt that because Oromo migration to Ethiopia four to three hundred years ago is accepted by many reasonable Oromos because the facts are overwhelming. They also understand that Oromos forced Ethiopian tribes to accept their language and identity.
    I think you are TPLF supporter and graduate of civil service college, i.e. TPLF cadre.
    As such your comment is understandable but it is lie and desperate. But you should know that TPLF can not give land to Oromos that doesn’t belong either to TPLF or to Oromos. And TPLF can not also force Ethiopian tribes to accept Oromo identity, they are now distancing themselves from Oromos because they know that they were forced by Oromo invaders to adopt language and identity.

    Take care

  16. ኦሮምትቻ
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    አለም :
    የኦሮሞን ሕዝብ እንወክላለን የሚሉ የሥልጣን ጥመኞችና ነጋዴዎች ብቻ ናቸው:: የሚያሳፍሩ ወሬኞች ናቸው:: የሚገርመው ብዙዎቻችን ከቁምነገር ቆጥረናቸው እንጨነቃለን:: ተስፋዬ ገብረአብ የኦሮሞን ሕዝብ ስብዕና በስነጽሑፍ ደረጃ ያስከበርኩ እኔ ነኝ ሲል, አማርኛን በስነ ጽሑፍ ደረጃ እዚህ ያደረስን እኔ, ጸጋዬ ገ/መድኅንና በአሉ ግርማ ነን ሲል ሲያጨበጭቡ አይቼ ስስቅ ከረምኩ:: በኦሮሞ ስብሰባ ላይ ተስፋዬ በአማርኛ ንግግር ሲያደርግ, አማርኛ እኮ ቋንቋና መግባቢያ ነው ሲላቸው [ኦሮምኛ አያውቅማ], ኦሮሞ ነኝ ሲላቸው [ኢጆሌ ቢሾፍቱ], በጥሞና ሲያደምጡት አይቼ አቅም እንደሌላቸው ተረድቻለሁ:: እነዚሁ “መሪ” ነን የሚሉ ሌላው አሳዛኝ ጉዳይ, ለኤርትራ ዕቡይ አላማ መጫወቻ እየሆኑ እንዳሉ አለማወቃቸው ነው:: ለማንኛውም ሰፊውን የኦሮሞ ሕዝብና እንወክለዋለን የሚሉትን ጥቂቶች ለይተን ማየት አለብን:: ግንቦት 7ም የተለየ አይደለም:: ሰሞኑን ናአምን አትላንታ ላይ “ለኢትዮጵያውያን ከኤርትራ የተሻለ ደህንነታቸው የሚከበርበት ሥፍራ የለም” የሚል መግለጫ ሲሰጥ ሰምቼ እነዚህ ሰዎች አብደዋል ወይ? ስል ከረምኩ:: ለማንኛውም ሌላ ጊዜ በሰፊው እመለስበታለሁ::

    “እነዚሁ “መሪ” ነን የሚሉ ሌላው አሳዛኝ ጉዳይ, ለኤርትራ ዕቡይ አላማ መጫወቻ እየሆኑ እንዳሉ አለማወቃቸው ነው::” ለማንኛውም ሰፊውን የኦሮሞ ሕዝብና እንወክለዋለን የሚሉትን ጥቂቶች ለይተን ማየት አለብን…ታዲያ እንዚህ ያጣጣልካቸው ‘ጥቂቶች’ ከኦሮሞ አብራክ የወጡት የኦሮሞ ሊኅቃንኦሮሞን የመወከል አቅም ከሌላቸው እንደነ አድማሱ ባሉ ነፍጠኞች ይወከሉ ነው የሚትለው? በቃ በናንተ አስተሳሰብ ኦሮሞ በራሱ ልጆች መወከል አይችልም አይደል? ማፍሪያዎች። ይሄ እኔ አቅልሃለሁ የሚለውን አስተሳሰብ ሞት ቀደመው።

  17. ኦሮምትቻ
    | #17

    @ኦሮምትቻ ኦሮሚያ ፊክሽን ናት? ጂል። ፊክሽን እያልከው ኦሮሞን ለራስህ የስልጣን ጥማት ማስፈጸሚያ ከጎንህ ማሰለፍ ያምረሃል። ጂል ብቻ ሳትሆን ጅላንፎ ነክ ኦሮሞን እንደ ባዕድ እየቆጠርካው በምን ስሌት ነው ካንተ ጋር ባንተ አስተሳሰብ እኳን እንደህዝብ እና ሀገር እውቅና የሰጠውን ወያኔን እንዲታገል keጎንህ እንዲሰልፍ የምትጋብዘው?የኦሮሞ ሕዝብ ከወያኔ ጋር መሰረታዊ ቅራኔ የላውም። ይልቅስ ኦሮሞ ከውያኔ ጎን ተሰልፎ እንድ እናንተን እይንቶቹን እያንሰራሩ ያሉትን የነፍጠኛ ጠላቶቹን የቀብሮ ጉድጓድ ውስጥ መጭመር ያለበት።

    | #18

    የህዝብ አናካሹ ጉድጓደ-ቀበሮዎች “ፊሊ-ኤልሳ” the Eritreas and ፋልሶ “ፊትአውራሪ” the SLAVE of the money of አዜብ ጎላ, የእንደርታ-ተምቤንን ስም አጨማላቂው, ወሎየው ቅጥረኛው Free ነኝ ባይ, ሓተላ-ግለቱ ድረገጽ ማንቀላፋት ጀመረሳ, በሃፍረት እየሞተ ነውን !!?? ተደበስ ኣብ እንጠሮጦስ…..!! እዩኝ-እዩኝ ያለ, ደብቁኝ-ደብቁኝ ይላል እንዲሉ!! No more ከረጢት ሽሮ…፟!፟? Ha…Ha…! ፊሊ-ኤልሳንሳ መድትራንያን ዋጣቸውን….!!?? እንደ ጭንጋፉ
    ገና ሁሉም የህዝብ ኣናካሾች ይወድማሉ……….! አሜን……………!

  19. አለም
    | #19

    ውድ ኦሮምትቻ; ከኦሮሞ አብራክ መውጣት ብቻውን ለመሪነት አያበቃም; መሪ ነኝ የሚል ሁሉ መሪ ነው ማለት አይደለም:: መሪነት ውጤት የሚያስገኝ ዓላማ መያዝና ያንን ለተቃዋሚና ለደጋፊ ማስረዳትን ይጠይቃል:: አንተም እንኳ ኦሮምትቻ ረጋ ብለህ የሌሎችን አሳብ ተረድተህ የራስህን ለማስረዳት አልቻልክም:: ገና ለገና በጭፍን ነቀፌታ ትሰነዝራለህ:: ስለ ቡልቻ ደመቅሳ ሰምተህ ታውቅለህ? ነጋሶ ጊዳዳንስ? ልልህ የፈለግሁት ኦሮሞ ሕዝብ ትልቅ ሕዝብ ነው; በማንም ወራዳ አይወከልም ነው:: በሌቦች አይወከልም ነው:: ሰፊ አስተሳሰብና ልብ ያለው መሪ አላገኘም ነው:: ለዚህ ነው የኤርትራ መንግሥት እና እንደ ተስፋዬ ያሉ አጭበርባሪዎች ጥላቻ እየዘሩ ጉዳያቸውን ለማስፈጸም የበቁት:: አድማሱ ኦሮሚያንና ስኮትላንድን ማነጻጸር ተገቢ አይደለም ያለውን እስማማለሁ:: ሁለቱን ማነጻጸር ባጭሩ ታሪክ አለማወቅ ነው:: በተረፈ ኦሮሞ ሕዝብ ቅርብ ጊዜ ነው የመጣው የሚሉ እንደ ፕሮፌሰር ጌታቸው ዓይነቶቹን ከቁም ነገር አትቁጠራቸው:: በምድር ላይ ያለ ሕዝብ ሁሉ አሁን በሚገኝበት ድንበር ተካልሎ አልኖረም:: ኦሮሞ ሕዝብ ከኋላ መጥቶ ሠፈረ የሚሉ ከሆነ ተዋጊነቱን ጀግንነቱን እየመሰከሩ ነው:: ይልቅ ሊያሳስበን የሚገባው አሁን የሚገዛው መንግሥት እያጣላ እየከፋፈለ ሥልጣን ላይ መቆየቱ ነው:: ሌላኛው ጉዳይ ብዙዎች በየድረገጹ የሚጽፉት በቂ የታሪክ እውቀት ኖሮአቸው ሳይሆን የሚደግፋቸውን አሳብ ብቻ እየቆነጸሉ ነው:: እንጂ በየትኛውም ማኅበረሰብ የሚጎራበቱ ሕዝቦች አንዴ ሲዋጉ አንዴ በጋብቻና በሃይማኖት ሲዋሐዱ ነው የኖሩት:: ኢትዮጵያ ከሌላው ዓለም የተለየ ታሪክ ሊኖራት አይችልም:: ስለዚህ የምታነበውን ሁሉ እንደ እውነት መቁጠር የለብህም:: ይልቅ ረጋ ብለህ ማጣራትና ልኩን ነገር ተረድተህ ሌሎችን ማስረዳት ይጠቅማል:: በል ነገር አላበዛብህም:: ደህና ሁን::@ኦሮምትቻ

  20. aha!
    | #20

    Ormticha@13, reflects the stance of the Oromo elites and leadership as regards upholding ethnic federalism, a pretext to ethnic secessionism, future boundary conflicts among ill defined ethnic homeland boundaries, an ongoing ethnic cleansing from ethnic homelands in compliance with the negative forces of disintegration by the TPLF/eprdf regime.

  21. aha!
    | #21

    Kagnew @12 is right on the narratives about the TPLF/eprdf regime, but falls short on the argumentative position in paragraph for not putting the blame on the ethnic and secessionist politics and/or policies of the regime inscribed in the constitution with the ideologies of ethnic federalism, secessionism and totalitarianism and/or state capitalism, rather than blaming “Ethiopian people learn to live together in a civilized manner…”. Then and only then you define the force to contend with.

  22. Development without freedom
    | #22

    The struggle to bring democracy to Ethiopia should not be the struggles of ethnic or religious groups, but the struggle of all Ethiopians.

    Oromos should see themselves, first of all, as Ethiopians. They should not justify their tribalism by saying they are the most oppressed tribe. All tribes of Ethiopia suffered equally.

    Oromos should refuse to use the name Oromia, and instead refer to the area by their former non tribal names, like Wellega, Shewa, Arsi, etc. No need to use new tribal names. Let Weyney alone use the names.

    Do not be tricked by Weyenes and think that because they gave a region the name Oromia for example, the territory belongs to Oromos alone, or Oromos will be the superior rulers of the region because the region is also home of other tribes, and these tribes will fight back against domination. They hate domination as much as Oromos do.

    Wyenes did not create the tribal zones to empower tribes but to pit them one against another and rule by playing the role of peace keepers and referees,following the example of colonists.

    Weyenes want you to fight over the borders of your tribal zones and preoccupied by it and forget about democracy. They are playing dangerous games to stay in power.
    That is why you should stop being narrow-minded tribalist and instead focus on democracy. If Addia Ababa is expanded you should be happy, not riot.The city is for all.If you riot, riot for democracy.

    Note: The above comment was posted here before. It was written during protest against expansion of Addis Ababa.

  23. Densa
    | #23

    [Admasu Belay]

    There was once a man that went by your name,I might add a dignified gentleman and authentic patriot. I have been reading your comments, but I must admit this is my first response to your piece. The reason I mentioned him here is this, every time I hear your name in your piece I remember the man. The man fought the Derg regime until he gasped his last breath.
    Once he comes so close to the border of Sudan and he was invited to cross the border town and rest for a while. He refused the offer because he so loved his own mother land, he thought he will dishonor Ethiopia if he did so. Not long after that he become a casualty of peasant associations while attending a church service, one of the institution, that was watch dog of the Derg.

    Commenting on the very issue , I tend to believe some times some issues are left completely unexplored. Other times only issues that advance the struggle for the common good need to be considered. “There is time for every thing” as the Bible said it. Currently the most crystallized idea is a formation of united front to remove weyane. Your piece made no contribution to move the momentum forward. It is like you are poring a jug of called water on it. That is how I feel any way.

  24. ኪዩማ
    | #24

    የአዳማ ምክትል ከንቲባ ከአገር እንዳይወጡ ታገዱ::ለአጭር ቀን ስልጠና ወደ አሜሪካ ለመብረር ዝግጅታቸውን ጨርሰው ቦሌ አየር ማረፊያ የተገኙት ምክትል ከንቲባው፣ ከጸጥታ ጋር በተያያዘ በሚል ከአገር እንዳይወጡ ተደርጓል። ዋናው ከንቲባና አንድ ባለሙያ ስልጠናውን ተካፍለው መመለሳቸው ታውቋል።
    ምክትል ከንቲባው የእስልምና እምነት ተከታይ እና በኦነግ አባልነት እንደሚጠረጠሩ ምንጮች ገልጸዋል።
    በከንቲባውና በምክትሉ መካከል የተፈጠረው ልዩነት እየሰፋ መምጣቱም ይነገራል።
    ምንጮች እንደሚሉት ኦህዴድ ሻሸመኔ ውስጥ ያካሄደውን ግምገማ ተከትሎ በድርጀቱ አመራሮች መካከል ያለው አለመግባባት እየሰፋ ነው::ሊጠናቀቅአንድዓመትበቀረውየመንግሥትየአምስትዓመቱመርሃግብርመሠረት
    የሆልቲካቸርእናሰፋፊእርሻ ኢንቨስትመንትዕቅዶችየተለጠጡስለነበሩየተሳካአፈጻጸምእንዳልተመዘገበባቸውየግብርናሚኒስትሩ
    አቶተፈራደርበውለመጀመሪያጊዜአምነዋል፡፡ የግብርናሚኒስትሩ
    አቶተፈራደርበው አዲስዘመንጋዜጣጋር ባደረጉትቃለምልልስእንደተናገሩት
    በመርሃግብሩዘመንየሆልቲካልቸርበተለይምየአትክልትናፍራፍሬኢንቨስትመንትበማስፋፋትለሀገሪቱ ከአንድቢሊየንበላይየሚደርስ
    ችግር፣የሎጀስቲክአቅርቦትማነስተጠቅሰዋል፡፡ የሰፋፊእርሻኢንቨስትመንትንለማስፋፋትየተደረገውጥረትመሬትተረክበውበፍጥነት
    ወደሥራያለመግባትችግሮች ማጋጠማቸውንጠቁመውይህንችግርለመፍታትጥረቶችመደረጋቸውንጠቅሰዋል፡፡በአሁኑወቅት
    በዘርፉ የአዳማ ባለሃብቶችበጥሩሁኔታእየተንቀሳቀሱመሆኑንሌሎችምከእነሱተሞክሮሊወስዱይገባልሲሉተናግረዋል፡፡

  25. aha!
    | #25

    Densa @ #23 responds to Admasu Belay stating: ” Currently the most crystalized idea is a formation of united front to remove weyane”, when there is already a united front/coalition known as OPDO/Medrek/EFDF//fdre, comprising of loyalist opposition parties along with UDJP and Tigrai Harena in the peaceful struggle , whose goals are : respect ethnic rights, “yekilil mengistat mebit iqulent mekeber, democracy and human rights as common denominator for all ethnic groups, engaged in negotiations, that does not amount to removing weyane/TPLF/eprdf regime. The only way to unite is to coalesce around the common goal for national agenda for unity, territorial integrity, sovereignty of Ethiopia and Ethiopians, where the last item refers to individual freedom, liberty and equality to have precedence over the current ethnic and secessionist rights to establish a democratic rule rather than ethnic rule minority now and the anticipated majority ethnic rule with the constitution in tact.

  26. ኦሮምትቻ
    | #26

    ጭራሽ ኦሮሚያ ማልታችሁን አቁሙ ትላላችሁ።የኢትዮጲያ ህልውና ያከትማል አንጂ ኦሮሚያ ለዘላለም ትኖራልች።ለመሆኑ ግን ስለምትናገሩት ነገር ብቅጡ ትረዳልችሁ? አይደለም ይህን ማድረግ ማሰቡም ወንጀል ነው። የኦሮሞን ሕዝብ የሚክልን ህዝብ ጎሳ ትላላችሁ። ደግሞም ደንቆሮ ስለ ሆናችሁ ነው አንጂ ብዙዎቹ የሰለጠኑት ሀገሮች ሳይቀር ጎሳን መሰረት ያደረጉ ናቸው። ሩሲያ ሩስኪዎች፤ ፈረንሳይ ፍራንክች፤ ጀርመን የጀርመን ጎሳዎች፤ ቻይናዎች ከሀን ጎሳዎች፤ ብርቴን ከብርቶንስ፤ ነው የተምሠረቱት። አሁን አኮ የኦሮሞ በስሙ መጠረት አንጂ ያብከነከናችሁ እንጂ ሌሎች ድሮም በጎሳ ስም ሲጠሩ የነበሩ ለምሳሌ አንደ ትግራይ ኦጋዴን፤ ሲደሞ የመሳሰሉት አላሳሰባችሁም ነበር። ይልቅስ የተሰጥችሁን የዓማራ ክልል ዓልሙ። ብትፈልጉ “ትንሹዋ ኢትዮጲያ” ብላችሁ ሰይሙት።። እንደው የናንተ ጥላቻ ይብልጥ ያጠንክረናል እንጂ ምንም አታመጡም። ኢርርርርር ድብን በሉ!!ኦሮሚያ በናንተ መቃብር ላይ ታብባለች!!!

  27. Anonymous
    | #27

    አቶ “ኦሮምትቻ” አስተየያት ለሰጥኡ ሰዎች አስተያዬታቸው ትክክል ካልመሰለህ በማስረጃ መቃወም ተገቢ ነው;;ነገር ግን አንተ የምታሰተገባው ጭፍን ጥልአቻና ስድብ እንጂ አስተያየት ለሰጥኡ ሰዎች መልስ አይደለም;;ይህ የሚያሳየው የአንተን ድክመት እንጂ የነእነሱን አይደለም;;

    ዓዋቂ የሆኑ ሰዎች በጭፍን አይመሩም ሁል ግዘእ ለማንኝኣውም ነገር ማስረጃ ይፈልጋሉ;ለማግኜትም ይሞክራሉ;;ስለዚህ የአንተ አስተያየት አንተን ነው የሚገልጼው አስተያየት የሰጥኡቱን አይደለም;;

    ” ሰው ማንን ይመስላል ቢሉ ንግግሩን ይባላልል”

    በአጤቃልይ ጭፍንነት የሁዋላነት ምልክት ነው;;

  28. Development without freedom
    | #28

    What Ethiopian tribes need is democracy, not separate homeland.

    Any one who invents or supports separate tribal zone is a racist who wants to dominate other.

    Creating tribal zones, like Oromia, Amahra, etc, is not substitute for democracy.

  29. Densa
    | #29

    [Dear Oromtecha]
    First of all I apologize for not writing as you do in in Amharic.
    Then, let me explain about the essence of massage was above.

    Perhaps you may not be pleased with what is said here by some commenters, above.I can understand how you can feel about this. I don’t know how you received about my comment above but there is nothing there I have mentioned about the Oromo people. I was simply stating to the writer I wish it was all together he left this issue un explored altogether. Because I don’t believe the timing was right. Since the writer mentioned the ‘ issue of Scotland has been a discussion point in some circles among the Oromos’, I am of the opinion he could have easily responded to the discussion he mentioned instead of writing a separate article of his reaction. That is what I said above. I have not said stop the usage of Oromia to any one. As a matter of fact, I use the name Densa because I am well familiar of the District of Yelmaena Densa in Western Go jam, that is resided by one of the very conservative segments of Ethiopian society.

    Any way Mr. Oromtecha you be blessed ! It is all right to have different
    Points of view over an issue, and still be fellow country men.


    You wrote,

    “The only way to unite is to coalesce around the common goal for national agenda for unity, territorial integrity, sovereignty of Ethiopia and Ethiopians, where the last item refers to individual freedom, liberty and equality to have precedence over the current ethnic and secessionist rights to establish a democratic rule rather than ethnic rule minority now and the anticipated majority ethnic rule with the constitution in tact.”

    I agree with your view in that one hopes the majority of Ethiopians will prefer given Ethiopia transformed herself to a democratic society where law and order are in place and individual freedom enjoyed. through a demonstration of sacrificial LOVE. You cannot not impose it now on every one. Before any thing else the current regime must be removed.To that end the majority of differing opposition parties understand now the need to cooperate in every area to effectively resist an entrenched mercenary regime.

    Aha, if we as you said, have to wait every one to be in the same page from the outset I am afraid we might as well fold our arms and let TPLF have her way unopposed for the years to come. At the moment the nation is at a breaking point, it might be a luxury for some of us to spent great deal of time on this forums ,adhering to some dogmas,and accomplish nothing except mud slide each other. It is very simple for you and me to be part of this form of discussions and at the same time be unmoved by the plight of others.. Because it does not require us to walk on the steps of the very poor, the displaced, the imprisoned and those who are being killed.

  30. aha!
    | #30

    Densa@29, I was making a constructive criticism to ypor and Yilma Bekele’s jubiliation about the coalition forces by way of scientific problem solving approach, whereby for the forces in the armed to follow thw same goals and the strategy of armed struggle to achieve those goals, to save Ethiopia from disintegration, if the current ideologies of ethnic federalism, secessionism and totalitarianism remains intact under ethnic majority rule. I never suggested to fold our hands together and TPLF continue to rule, but to stand in direct contrast to ethnic minority rule now and ethnic majority rule in the future to create a democratic society and democratic rule with free individuals by standing and fighting TPLF/eprdf regime with decisive goals for unity, territorial integrity, sovereignty of Ethiopia and Ethiopians, instead of two conflicting set of goals in the current scenario of armed and/or peaceful struggle since 2005.

  31. ኦሮምትቻ
    | #31

    ከላይ ያነሳሁትን ነገር ግን ማንም አስተያየት ሊሰጥበት ያልፈለገውን አንድ ሃሳብ ላንሳ። አንድ ህዝብ በማንኛውም ሰዓት መንግስት መመስረት ይችላል። ይንን እናንት የምታቀንቅኑት ሰብዓዊ መብት ይፈቅዳል። የኦሮሞ ሕዝብም ሆነ ለላው ሕዝብ የራሱን መንግስት ለመመስረት ከአሁን በፊት አንደ ኢትዮጲያ የ፲፪፫ ወይም የ፫ሺ ዓመት የግዛት ታሪክእንዳለው ማስረዳት አይጠበቅበትም። ኢትዮጲያም ባንደ ወቅት አልነበረችምና። ስላዚህ የኦሮሞን ጥያቄ ከሆላንድ ጋር እያነጻጸሩ ለማቂላቄል መመከር አንዲሁ እራስን ከማታላል ባለፈ ምንም የሚፈይደው ነገር የልም። ለማጠቃለል ኦሮሞ ከንግድህ ዓማራን ለማረም ጊዜውን አያጠፋም። የኦሮሞ ሕዝብ የተማረው ክፍል ሃለፊነት የራሱን ሕዝብ በኦሮምኛ ቋንቛ እንደ ሰደድ እሳት እየተቀጣጠላ ያለውን የኦሮሞ በሔረተኝነት ስሜት በይበልጥ ማቀጣጠል ነው። ከአሁን በበለጠ የማንቃት ስራ መስራት ባቻ ይበቀዋል። የራሱን ስራ በቻ በሚገባ መስራት ነው። ብትንሹ ፸ ሚሊየን ኢትዮጲያ ውስጥ የሚኖሩ ሕዝቦች የኦሮሞን ስሜት ይጋሩታል። የኦሮሞ ሕዝብ ጥያቄ ከሌላው ቀርቶ ከወያኔ ዓላማ ጋር ሳይቀር በተወሰነ መልኩ ይጣጣማል።

  32. ኦሮምትቻ
    | #32

    እናንተ ስለሰው መብት ቆመናል እያላች ሁ ከምትከሱት ወያኔ በባሰ ሆኔታ ጉዳት የለላቸውን ነጻ አስተያየት ሳንሱር ለማድረግ ፪፬ ሰዓት መፍጀት ምን ይባላል? የኔን አመለካከት ግድ የለም ባታወጡትም ግደ የለኝም። እነደው እያየሁ ዝም ከሚል የበኩሌን ልበል ብዬ ነው።በመጽሓፍ ሰበስቤ አስትሜ ለተራው ሕዝብ እንደማደርስ አትጠራጠሩ።

  33. Development without freedom
    | #33


    You have failed to see the difference between Ethiopia and the
    Weyenes-invented tribal zones like Oromia. Ethiopia is a country that is established through slow process of history. It is not created by design like Eritrea or Oromia. So, history is important. You do not create a country all of a sudden. Doing so leads only to conflicts. Colonist created Eritrea and look to what conflicts that led our country to. In fact weyenes are coping colonists when they established tribal zones to create more conflicts. Do not be fooled by them.

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