Andenet held a Press Conference with Ethiopian Diaspora Media – Please Listen.

October 13th, 2008 Print Print Email Email

Andenet’s Press Conference with Ethiopian Diaspora Media. Disregard some irresponsible media outlet reporting on this matter. Unfortunately for them, The Ethiopian People’s Struggle has become a VIRTUAL REALITY.

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Part 2 – Part 2

  1. Debe
    | #1

    Elias Kifle is a demented pit bull. He is good to attack Woyanne. When woyanne is not around then he will eat your kids.


  2. | #2

    elias Kifle is not Ethiopia.He comes from Eritria.He workes for Shabia.He is massager for Shabia

  3. aha!
    | #3

    Listen to, that is where the campaign is on peacefull struggle against the regime. The one we are listening now is a public relations gimmic on the way to preparing the party UDJP for election in 2010 with out any changes in the democratic institutions, even including the current draft bill on civil and NGO organizations.

    They are establish offices from scratch indicating they had no base, no constituency to start with.

  4. alme
    | #4

    Mr aha

    so what is the big deal about opeing office and resblishing the infrastructure? know you teling Comerade Mirchawe has a constituency on ethiopia

  5. kuru
    | #5

    Mr aha
    How is Emperor Hailu ,is he still in a metntal hospital or Dr Taye from EPRP is leading your family party

  6. Ayele
    | #6

    Please please stop this nonsense!attacking UDJ. Let the people of UDJ promote their agenda on their own way and means.We have to look into the environment they are working in before badmouthing them.They need to work on strengthening the party before they meet any demand from the so-called supporters pushing them to be aggressive.

  7. Lema
    | #7

    Stop bashing Elias and forward your argument!

    Elias’s editorial is to the point and left opponents shocked. Supporter of the UDJ don’t have anything to say except charcter assasination. Now Aiga Forum is screaming to their rescue! What would the UDJ supporters say when Birtukan herself said the 8 points are no longer a preconditions – surrendering the 8 points that so many have died and suffer like that for FERFARI? What would one say when Mesfin w/m came out loud and said “yes they killed innocent people, divided a country but they are not the enemies – please blame our culture”? Today for Mesfin w/m – Eng. HS & Dr. Nega are the No#1 enemies but the Woyannies are poltical partners. What would one say when Yacob H/M said the NEB is indpendent totally forgetting what happened to the election in 2005? – That is why supportes of Medikissa are name calling but can not forward a single convincing arguments. All the defensive arguments are now provided by AIGA Forum and Walta Information. No wonder why the group associated with the UDJ hated Eng. Hailu Shawel.

    You are naked there is no more hiding under the rag. The devlish Woyannie is smarter than the rotten Diaspora & the fake leaders – now the fake leaders are cornered by the tryrannt.

    It all started in Nov. 2006 in Kaliti Prison when the Medikssa group, the US Embassy and the Woyannies had a meeting wtih out the chairman of the CUDP. They alienated & painted him a hardliner, radical and a dictator because he stood up for Ethiopia. The rest is history.

  8. Woyanne Nightmare
    | #8

    Lemma aka Elias Kiflom,

    I guess you were going to be appointed as information minister of G7. What happened with that position? I think they are distancing themselves from you because you are nothing but a big mouth.

    Armed Struggle ? Who is not for it?
    However, It makes me sick when Whimps and Political Pimps like yourself talk about it.

    You and your likes are just bluffing. Nothing serious is coming out of you.

    Armed struggle is not about talking but doing the walking. It is neither a video game. I wish I would live in DC. I would have smacked your big fat head with a big stick so that some of my teachings get through your brain.

    Woyanne Nightmare.

  9. maritu
    | #9

    Elias Your Father is Eritrean
    Your Mother is from Wollo thats how you were a friend of Ledetu for a long time before your hiden project friendship ended

    Elias you are exposed SHABYA agent which really makes you a dangerous Woyane Agent After all Shabya & Woyane have more in common than we Ethiopians
    Elias: I can assure you one day you will be crying I hope its soon

  10. Cobra
    | #10

    Lema the so called Elias Kiflom,

    Dear loser Shabia i banned me to write any comment on your tabloid website. Thanks to Abugida afree media to the free world. Elias forgot every thing please please show us any progress you cronies @ Ginbot 7 done so far except news paper and radio Bukatam hulu.


  11. wechewgud
    | #11

    I have posted my comments on this so called independent media which strive for plurality and blocked or removed from the forum.

    I know you and your cronies are not committed for pluralism and open discussion. Make no mistake about this, we know that you and your party Andenet are waiting for the right moment to unlashes your agenda of distorting even the semblance of democratic practice.

    Stay assured, same mistake shall not be repeated and innocent life will be insecure in vain.

    Delete as much message as you can you cannot hide form your true color

  12. aha!
    | #12

    All I care about is to initiate a discussions on some turning points that debilitates the peacefull struggle by the likes of teletafi and loyalist party leaders.

  13. Achenafi
    | #13

    Ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!! Now we got you no where to hide and no goose to cook see where you are now.

    “Ke-miker bet yishalale eser bet” is changed to plz take us into the journey of Btechbereber mirch yetekuakuame miker bet. GOD forbid, fellow’s where did you lost the issue of yekehadi mekerbet agenda.

  14. balager
    | #14

    What a joke! It is amazing how we Ethiopians have become the butt of Elias kifle/ Isaias Afewerk Joke. My fellow Ethiopians! Think back and look back into the archives of Ethiopian Review and find one article that denounces the Dictatorship in Eritrea. You will find none. Then check out Ethiopian Review’s stand on any Ethiopian leader be it ethnic or National. You will find out that He hates all that talk about the unity of Ethiopia. He hates Hailu Shawel, He hates Berhanu Nega, He hates Merara Gudina, He hates Beyene Petros, He hates Mesfin W/Mariam, He hates Merha Yoseph, He hates Iyasu Alemayehu, He hates Colonel Goshu Wolde, He hates Birtukan Mideksa. In the same tounge he also hates Prime misery Meles.Hehates all except Isayas Afewerk and those who are in in Isayas pocket to be used as dogs to be wagged when needed. We Ethiopians are not going to br Isayas’s dogs to be sent to bite Woyane when he is feeling like his repressive govt is threatened. Isayas is as bad as Meles. They are two sides of the same coin. Elias is the little puuppy of Isayas. As long as we konw that his questions and his quest should not bother as as they can be a source of Entertainment on behalf of Shabia. Elias is Shabia. Knowing it will make us tolerate him and make us look at him as the joke of the century. If you fool me once knowing that you are fooling me shame on you. If you fool me twice knowing you have fooled me befoe shame on me. Elias you cant fool us. Enjoy writting your B-U-L-L S-H-I-T.

  15. Kebede
    | #15


    You’re right! ELias Kiflom is a shabia(a demented one). We have never heard him talk about Afeworki’s brutality.

    I heard he would be appointed as Information Minister of G7.


  16. shumet
    | #16

    it is sad to see people like Kuru with some kind of retarded brain insult others. this indicates what the weyane gang of infitrators are doing to the struggle. we know how some quarters have emerged from no where or even some who had been collaborators of the despot regim. to make myself clear birtukan or others have the right to form a party what ever their track record is. regarding Mr. Elias i think he is a man with a mission to destroy our country with an insider informer, who knows it could be meles himself or berekt, sebhat. the key to bring the weyane to their knees is not insulting the victims unless you are part of them.

  17. Senedu K
    | #17


    If you do not support peaceful struggle, then you are supporting war to replace TPLF/EPRDF. But, have you ever thought where war could possibly take the country? If you do not care about the country, the war choice can take you wherever you want to go. A group concerned about the future of the country wrote the following. It discusses the possible effects war which Genbot 7 is ready to join. Have patience and read it. Write back your opinion.

    “We do not believe clandestine, armed violent organizations stand for the country. They might tell us that the violence is to bring democracy, but we could not find evidence to support it. In fact, resorting to violence is a sign of wholesale rejection of law and democracy. Genbot 7 is illegal organization in the country because it uses “all inclusive means” to overthrow the TPLF/EPRDF government. Incontestably, “all inclusive means” suggests the use of arms. We doubt if it is true, but Genbot 7 claims it is mobilizing the masses in a clandestine organization. To start with, we do not understand the need for such an organization because there already exists one. To a large measure, the program of Genbot 7 goes in line with the memorandum of understanding of the Alliance for Freedom and Democracy (AFD), an organization created three years ago by the OLF, ONLF, EPPF, etc. The AFD was later joined by the CUD (international) in the U.S.

    The place of Genbot 7 is with AFD and, we hope, it will be received by the AFD members with fanfare and jubilation. With the recent “shake up” within the OLF to meet the demands of Genbot 7, the way for a cooperation in politics, military, intelligence and diplomacy is wide open. The only problem will be the inherent undemocratic nature of Genbiot 7 which requires to be joined by other organizations rather than it joins an existing one. Furthermore, Genbot 7 wants to be joined by others in its own terms such as approval of the unity of the country. The OLF and ONLF will laugh at this type of suggestion since they will not negotiate the political stand they had advanced for decades. Unity of the “empire” is something they will not endorse. They might probably join a temporary, broad and loose front to conduct war for “democracy”, but, even for that, in their own terms rather than that of Genbot 7. For them, democracy in this context is not an ultimate goal to work for but a means to facilitate separation.

    Genbot 7 leaders are delusional if they think that democracy will check separatism and then render it unnecessary. The truth is far from this. If separatism can be solved by democracy, Europeans would have solved it long ago. Think of the United kingdom (in the case of Northern Ireland), France (in the case of Corsica), Spain (in the case of Basque), Greece and Turkey (in the case of Cyprus) and several others. None of these countries succeeded to check separatism using democracy. Opposition parties in these countries never joined separatist organizations to defeat governments; on the contrary, they resoundingly rejected separatism. It is doubtful if leaders of Genbot 7 are smarter than leaders of opposition parties in Europe. Allying with separatist organizations will make Genbot 7 a promoter of interest of separatist organizations rather than promote unity of the country. The OLF and ONLF will be the main beneficiaries of any arrangement with Genbot 7.

    Just two weeks ago, the leader of Genbot 7, in a radio inaugural speech said once TPLF/EPRDF are removed, we will solve our differences with armed groups through dialogue. If dialogue does not work, the people will make a determination. Nobody knows what this determination involves and which people makes what determination. Genbot 7 also says it works to remove TPLF/EPRDF and not to take power. It has no answer for the big question: who takes power? What it wants is to polarize people, pulverize society and create a situation for power vacuum. Once that is done, armed groups will sort it out. It is a repeat of the mistake of the student movement of the 1960s, 70s and after. The new generation should refuses to follow the path that led to national disasters.

    Genbot 7 does not see the risk the occupation of Somalia poses to the country. In fact, it is the most fundamental problem we face right now. We appreciate that the opposition is urging the government to withdraw its army from Somalia. The opposition says that the cost in human lives, money and materials is too much. We wonder how they failed to realize that occupation of other country and people is wrong. It seems that if the cost is less, they might allow the government to stay. We feel that they should insist that the occupation is illegal and the government must unconditionally withdraw its army. Whenever Somalia is the issue, we all should remember the occupation of our country by the Italians.

    The suggestion that we will be in danger if the army withdraws from Somalia is a propaganda ploy. Given the large army the country has, it can defend itself from any attack that might come. As in everything else, we see that the government is not listening. If the government thinks the country is secure by occupying Somalia, the false sense of security will begin to crumble soon. A paper smuggled to the country tells a grim story. Not long ago, a high level international conference with delegates from the Middle East, North Africa, the Sudan and Djibouti was held in Asmara. In that conference, an academic from a university in North Africa with remarkable expertise on contemporary political history of the region has made a fascinating presentation. It was about Somalia’s lost chances to reconstitute herself as a state.

    The academic started by discussing the occupation of Afghanistan by the USSR in the 1980s and its adverse effects reverberating to this day. He said the USSR has disintegrated and Afghanistan is ungovernable. It also poses a serious danger to the security of the Western world. He explained how the Soviet Union that existed for seventy years collapsed after a decade of occupation of a much poorer, weaker and smaller neighbor. He did not claim the collapse resulted directly from the occupation, but suggested that it is one of the main reasons for the collapse. His guess is Ethiopia might as well collapse and give way to a number of new states due to occupation of Somalia. His point is both the USSR and Ethiopia are lured by their enemies to take harder positions on their neighbors and precipitate their own demise.

    In the case of the USSR, the plan of the U.S. government was to deliberately draw the USSR to its own Vietnam and bring the cold war to an end. With modern armaments and technical support from the U.S. and Europe and financial support from Saudi Arabia and others, the Afghan resistance prevailed over the larger, well trained and equipped and disciplined Soviet army. At the end of the war, the moderate Afghan resistance lost power to Islamic fundamentalists. The plan to end the cold war worked but Afghanistan remains a problem to this day.

    Our neighbors in North Africa and the Middle East started a covert project to experiment the USSR – Afghan disaster on us years before the Ethiopian army entered into Somalia. Eritrea is chosen to replicate the role of Pakistan in the sub – region. Thanks to its creativity and long experience in such matters, Eritrea is not hampered from active involvement in the project because it shares no boundary with Somalia.

    The smuggled paper we mentioned earlier carries a wealth of information. The covert project was thorough with its background study of the USSR and Ethiopia and persuasive with its inferences. Leaving aside the differences between the USSR and Ethiopia the paper highlights, the following summarizes its inferences. The situation in the USSR before and during the occupation of Afghanistan resembles the situation in Ethiopia during and after the occupation of Somalia. Like the USSR, Ethiopia has a constitution that recognizes separatism. Like the USSR, Ethiopia has a government that uses divide and rule as a means to stay in power. Like the USSR, Ethiopia has a government that feeds differences than similarities among ethno – linguistic groups. Like the USSR, Ethiopia has a government whose relation with the west is unpredictable. As in the USSR, a power vacuum will be created if the TPLF/EPRDF falls due to violence.

    The paper also mentions factors that never existed in the USSR that makes the collapse of Ethiopia more possible. Unlike in the USSR, there are separatist organizations with decades of existence in Ethiopia ready to seize the opportunity and declare independence. Unlike in the USSR, there is a government with dubious plan of separatism if removed from power by force. It is further mentioned that these circumstances will make it easier to create a wide separatist front that cannot be defeated by unity forces. Several minor factors which feed this situation are added too. We are shocked by the paper’s unexpected revelations. We believe that the attempt to replicate the USSR – Afghan conflict in the Horn region is an active one.

    The paper concludes by justifying why the project should be advanced aggressively. It says Muslims in Somalia are occupied by Christians as Muslim Afghans were occupied by Communists and atheists. These are infidels with different stripes. So, no wonder why Somalis and Afghanis turned to Islam as organizing force to fight infidel occupiers. Ethiopia is an aggressive force bent on conquering and occupying Somalia as the USSR was regarding Afghanistan; both are not in legitimate wars to defend their populations or borders. Somalis are fighting Ethiopia to force it withdraw from their land with the support of states from the Middle East, North Africa and beyond as the Afghans did. Ethiopia unheeded the warning of the international community (including that of the U.S.) not to invade Somalia and withdraw once it has invaded. The USSR had also unheeded the call of the international community to withdraw from Afghanistan.

    It is now Ethiopia against dozens of wealthy Muslim and secular states. The fact that USSR and Ethiopia entered into war they cannot win is positive from their enemies points of view. They are asking to imagine how the world would have looked like if the USSR had defeated and annexed Afghanistan. With the USSR taking the Persian Gulf, the cold war would have intensified and possibly triggered the third world war. As suggested to them recently, Ethiopia and Kenya might be considering to divide and annex Somalia. We feel that even if the war ends by Ethiopia’s withdrawal or defeat, Somalia will not be divided and annexed. In fact, once Ethiopia withdraws – defeated or otherwise – Somalia will emerge a formidable force to effectively undo Ethiopia.

    Genbot 7 might have deliberately ignored this. In the next room where the international conference we mentioned earlier was held, the OLF and ONLF were finalizing a newly discovered strategy to achieve independence. The EPPF was not invited even as an observer. Never before had the OLF and ONLF came up with such a strategy. The strategy focused on the existing three models in the Horn of Africa itself.

    First, they saw the Somalia model. This model favours the dissolution of a central government, its infrastructure, defense and police. The OLF and ONLF agreed that this model will create a power vacuum which makes automatic separation possible. The EPLF had used it to achieve its goal of separation. As witnessed in Somalia, however, the problem with this model is lack of recognition of the new state or states by the international community. In the case of Eritrea, it was the TPLF/EPRDF government that paved the way for its recognition. The OLF and ONLF acknowledged the effectiveness of this model but also its shortcomings in the absence of a central government that will open the way for recognition. About a decade ago, the TPLF/EPRDF was the most favoured government for this model, but it is no more. Now, their hope is a transitional government that will replace the TPLF/EPRDF and pave the way for referendum on self determination and separation. The nucleus of such a transitional government is the Alliance for Freedom and Democracy which Genbot 7 is poised to join. There is fear though. If the Alliance fails to take power at the center, an extreme right wing Amara-Tigre power might effectively turn the Oromo – Somali struggle for separation way back to its enfancy.

    Second, they considered the Ethiopia model. This model is closely related to the first. It relies on the existence of a central government in Ethiopia that favours the separation of certain peoples and not others. The basis of the model is the separation of Eritrea some fifteen years ago. That separation was justified by the TPLF/EPRDF government using history, politics and choice of people. The same government, however, refused to extend such justifications to Oromos and Somalis. In effect, with Eritrea out, it fought hard to keep the rest of the country together. The most preferred government for the OLF and ONLF is a prototype of the TPLF of the 1980s and 1990s. As said earlier, one such candidate is the AFD. Such a government, with Oromos and Somalis out, will recognize the separated states while closing the way for other states not to do the same – at least until the separated states are recognized by the international community. Furthermore, it will apply force to quash local resistance and opposition to the separation.

    Third, they discussed the Sudan model. This model recognizes the right to a referendum on separation. In the Sudan, an agreement was signed between the central government and group(s) fighting for separation. The agreement included the right to conduct a referendum after a fixed number of years. Two conditions were met for the agreement to be signed. First, the balance of power in the battle field favoured the separatists. Second, the international community was angry with the Sudan. In fact, it threatened the Sudanese government with sanctions for genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity. On the bases of this agreement, southern Sudan will hold a referendum in a couple of years to determine its future. The ONLF actively promotes this model. However, it has failed to tip the balance of force in its favour. As observed in the past few months, the international community was angry with the TPLF/EPRDF government. It even started talking about the commission of genocide, war crimes or crimes against humanity in the region. It might take sometime before the ONLF makes a break – through using this model.

    At the end, both the OLF and ONLF agreed to pursue all the models as the situation permits.

    If Genbot 7’s “all inclusive struggle” is to translate into reality, no where other than the Amara region is the most conducive one. The guess is that Genbot 7 is already connected the EPPF – an Amara armed group in the region. The group is officially backed by our tiny neighbor to the north – Eritrea. Such an armed adventure is more riskier than can be imagined.

    Some years ago, we said the following on this same page. ” … For lack of an inclusive political system, the country seems to drift apart by wrong unofficial alliances and isolationist strategies. Except one, none of us in this (discussion) group belongs to the Amara ethnic group. But anything that brings Amaras and Tigreans at loggerheads terrifies me. The north of the country was and still is the main force determining the future of the country. From their general political disposition and violent practices observed over decades, it seems that they are not ready to change the business of politics. First, think of Eritreans who left the country after decades of unimaginable destructive civil war that left themselves and us under bad governments and a medieval type of economic and social situation. Second, take the Tigreans. Northerners themselves, they fought for decades and again left themselves and the rest of the country in bad situation. It does not matter whether the two wars were fought at the same time; their effects were devastating. Now, embittered by the brutal and deliberate exclusion from the political process by the TPLF, Amaras seem to have raised arms. We have heard that a considerable number of people are joining an armed group in the Amara region and other areas in the country and their ranks are growing fast. They are politically, financially, materially, technically and diplomatically supported by Eritrea and underground organizations both in and out of the country. Local urban guerrillas whose emergence and persistence indicate lack of accommodation have become part of life. Given their history, I would guess that the third emerging violent force in the north will fundamentally change the country as EPLF and TPLF did. Probably sooner than might be expected. If you contrast these series of violence originating in the north to draw and redraw the country’s political configuration, you will curiously observe that people in the south, east and west are still fledgling to emerge as political forces. Despite decades of existence, the OLF and ONLF have not succeeded to do what the northerners did and continue to do in a relatively short time. We are southerners and the idea here is not to present ourselves as politically weak. The truth is that we tend to be less violent compared to northerners. So, I am just questioning why our way of life in the west, south and east is not emulated by northerners. The TPLF/EPRDF want to monopolize violence and it seems they have not achieved it. We do not understand why the TPLF/EPRDF are unwilling to come up with some kind of comprehensive peace strategy to involve all stakeholders in the country’s political life.”

    Given the newfound militantism and courage of the OLF and ONLF due to the possible alliance with Genbot 7, the country should prepare itself for a tripartite ethno-military entity. If this entity succeeds to remove TPLF/EPRDF from power by force and impose itself as transitional government, it will have no Tigray to govern. Following, Oromia and Ogaden will be gone. Once these regions are gone, the rest cannot be kept together. Add the problem of Somalia to this situation. Surely, Genbot 7 has no clue which direction it is taking the country and its people.

    As presented above, the country is faced with the risk of collapse due to the occupation of Somalia. The OLF, ONLF and EPPF are more than ever committed to war. Under such situation, who in his right mind would support Genbot 7 to unleash its “all inclusive” struggle that will adversely affect the country? Given our horrendous experience under the TPLF – a one time armed violent organization that ” liberated ” us from the Derg, would any one support to be liberated by armed gangs? How about the horrible experience of our neighbors to the north under the EPLF that fought for decades for independence? Would our people endure another violence to be perpetrated by self-proclaimed liberator warlords? Since the Italian occupation, people in this country have not lived in peace. They are tired of self-proclaimed liberators. How about the AFD as a transitional government that will work for the interest of the OLF and ONLF? Would the EPPF fight with the OLF and ONLF if they break their word about unity? How about Eritrea that works for its own interests? Do you believe that Eritrea wants the unity of Ethiopia instead of smaller and weaker nations in the region? We do not buy Genbot 7’s talk to remove TPLF/EPRDF without any plan about the future. We will not return to claindestinity, illegality and violence for no use. As done in the past, opposition parties will build on what is already achieved and win office through the ballot box. If they do not win, they will make more gains in the next election.

    Given the difficult political and economic situation the country is in now, the use of force to remove the TPLF/EPRDF is the worst choice. We would not say, as some do, that TPLF/EPRDF are not the enemy; they are. But there are much worse enemies that threaten the existence of the country than TPLF/EPRDF right now. No country means no people to govern. So, even for Genbot 7, the investment will not bring a return if the country does not exist. The impending risk of end of the country has presently created an obvious political divide between opposition parties that want to win power through the ballot box and those who want to win through war and violence. Those who do not want to see an imminent end of the country have rightly adopted, both in principle and practice, a peaceful struggle. They are persuaded that war and violence will contribute to the creation of a power vacuum that will enhance the chances of separatist armed warlords to achieve their goals.

    The best choice for the people right now is an orderly transfer of power through the ballot box rather than attempting to snatch it. Orderly transfer of power will close openings for power vacuum and ensure that elected representatives take office without disrupting economic, cultural and social activities. Alliance with warlords and investing in war and violence are wrong and risky. With warlords, the future has always been unknown, unknowable and bleak. Despite relentless hounding, the camp that prefers peaceful struggle will prevail but there is no guarantee without working hard to achieve it.

    Good luck for the peace camp. “

  18. aha!
    | #18

    Eventhough, I did not read thorughly the last comment, I did not perceive Ginbot Seven from the the perspective of AFD, from which CUDP has distanced itself, I presume. The split of the Split of the K-5 formed Ginbot 7, which W/t Birtukan denounced. However, we do not know what seceret agenda is there behind closed door, if they are truley opposed to each others move/agenda or complementing each other.

    To look at this move from the perspective of AFD for the the Ginbot 7 to assume/aspire for a leading role is a formidable task, unless the the libration movement put behind their agenda for librating themselves and fight to librate Ethiopians under one central command System. Who is going to be that commander? Dr. Berhanu talked about collective leadership, when he was in US with K-5. Is this armed struggle run by civilians or an army General? When they take power by force they do not leave a vaccuum, they form a provisional Government like that of TPLF and dergue. But genuine is the transfer of power to democratically elected government as opposed to a provisional government from among the existing opposition party/parties that have won through the peacefull struggle.

    In the final analysis, the provisional Government is the the sticking point, unless it is assigned to the old Kinijit, which is the legitimate winner in the past election. I presume the struggle is to restore the election, to campaign with regards to the 8 points, to restablish democratic institutions, and aggessively persue the passage of HR2003 in the Senate, vis avis other peacefull means of struggle, including the negotiations for the release of all political prisonors. What a formidable task.

  19. Lema
    | #19

    The discussion was about the UDJ and its treachous move to weaken and kill the popular struggle by working for the Woyannies.

    But folks spinned it around and all of a sudden the discussion is about: G7, OLF and Elias Kiflie.

    Because the UDJ supporters have nothing in their defence except charcter assasination and name calling. At least AIGA Forum has a better defending point for them.

    G7 is dead – because it has no existence in Ethiopia. Elias Kiflie is a vagabond who has no principle – so what is the point of talking about him.

  20. aha!
    | #20

    Why Elias Kifle as an editor talk about the Eritrean leader, when the concern of Ethiopian people is that of the current regime, and action and inclination of the the teletafi parties. He asked W/t Birtukan a question to address that concern and she did not answer the question.

    Stop this name calling coming from different factions as if the faction you support addresses the problem of the the Ethiopians. Just because the question asked the weakness of the party in addressing the problem of Ethiopians are facing to day and further disintegration of Ethiopia, has no bearing to tie to being linient of the notorious Eritrean regime.

    Argue the facts defend Pro. Mesfin and Dr. Yacob and Berhanu Nega in the light of the statements they made publicly. Then we can agree to disagree. Do not insult the true heroes of Ethiopia, that is deflecteting the attention from the current regime.

  21. samuel
    | #21

    and yet you use to tell us freedom and democracy. what is freedom and democracy when you are a dictator like your mengestu.
    PLS stop telling us about democracy even in this website i can’t see democracy and free speech. if you are againest woyane you are well comed even with insult but if you are supporter of woyane you deleted our comment. shame shame on you guys. pls try to be democrat atlist you are living in the west.

  22. RUFAEL
    | #22

    I think Bretukan should answer Elias’s Question.How do you acheive democratic election by dropping the 8 questions of Knijit? Elias is courgous man

  23. Anjamo
    | #23

    senedu, according to you, the best choice is an orderly transfer of power through the ballot box. Every bodyknows that for the last 17 years the opposition parties had struggled peacefully and won the 1997 election and it was wayanne who refused the outcomeof that dem.election.Instead killed hundreds,arrested the elected leaaders,including that of G7. you mentioned that resorting to violence is a sign of wholesale rejection low and democracy.The question is: do we have low and democracy in ethiopia to be rejected? According to u G7 is an illegal organisation,which wants to overthrow the TPLF.As long as tplf has no mandate , it is illegal and violence against it cant’be condemned.It must be recognised that the politica party , which mobilizes the people hardly touches on the problems of legitimacy.weyanne (as apuppet) was orderd by the US to invade Somalia ,it has nothing to do with ethiopia, wayanne doesnt represent Ethiopias interst. If we hade democratic institions, neither ertrea seceded nor Wayanne came to power.It is democracy that can check separatism , not the contrary as u said it.If G7 chooses to arm it self to protect its people from state violence , it is a concious choice. Conciousness, in itself , is nothing. It becomes something only as it makes Choices. by the way i am not a G7 memb.

  24. aha!
    | #24

    the forum which centered around UDJP form of peacefull struggle and scrutiny surrounging UDJP, turned into scrutinizing the two forms of struggles. Thanks to Senedu, the armed struggle apart from EPPF is a mixed bag, dubious, even for EPPF until it got out of the control of EPLF regime. The one Ginbot 7 is attempting to join is like mixing oil and water without the libration movement abandoning their separatist agenda to an Ethiopian struggle for freedom and democracy with Amaharic as a mode of communication and English as as a second language. According to Sendu’s the ONLF and OLF have three models in their option, should they take up power and form a provisionary government the idea of of ethnic federalism might still be well and alive and supported by the teletafi and loyalist parties including UDJP. We are back to square one. Nevertheless, there is not government to alow them to gain independence from Ethiopia, which is ridiculous notion in the first place where and body part can break away from its own self, much more riducoulous than the independece of Eritrea from its colonial master, Ethiopia, as if Eritrea was not part of Ethiopia. Democracy will be undermined in the process, when power is acquired through armed struggle.

    The only mode of freedom and democracy is peaceful resistance/struggle to reverse the course of the past eighteen years.

  25. Blete
    | #25

    The only mode wayane and his masters recognise is Violence.

  26. Tesfaye
    | #26

    Both ginbot 7 and UDJ are fake.
    Ginbot 7 is a dream party.
    UDJ is a fake Party formed by the government people and faction of CUD.
    The only strong man with a million Ethiopian people supporter is Eng.Hailu Shawel.
    By the way Woyanne is more smarter than dead Diaspora Politician.

  27. Olbemo
    | #27

    Tesfaye. I hope you arrived sound from Mars. You talk about Ato Hailu. Show me the evidence. The old man is sleeping while UDJ is organizing. You and me are paper tigers hidding ourselves behined a monitor, and do nothing. Leave, the decision to the Ethiopian people. The person whom you think have million supporter is a once upon a time story. While Woyane is engaged in preventing the people from freely expresing their wishes and imprioning those who supported “Kinijit” you and me did nothing to raise-up and protest to uncle Sam the financial provider or the life line of Woyane. Woyane will die soon, and the Ethiopian people will prevail. You and me will still hide ourselves and attack UDJ moronly.

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