Reports of torture in Ethiopia are widespread

April 17th, 2007 Print Print Email Email

Nick Wadhams, San fransisco Chronicle Foreign Service

Monday, April 16, 2007 Ghimbi, Ethiopia — First, the police threw Tesfaye into a dark cell. Then, each day for 17 days, it was the same routine: Electric shocks on his legs and back, followed by beatings with rubber truncheons. (more…)

Nick Wadhams, San fransisco Chronicle Foreign Service

Monday, April 16, 2007 Ghimbi, Ethiopia — First, the police threw Tesfaye into a dark cell. Then, each day for 17 days, it was the same routine: Electric shocks on his legs and back, followed by beatings with rubber truncheons. Four or five officers would then surround and kick him. At last, a large bottle of water would be tied around his testicles. He’d pass out. Tesfaye’s crime? Maybe it’s that he refused to join the ruling party of Prime Minister Meles Zenawi. He was accused of organizing street protests in late 2005. Police suspect he’s a member of a rebel group called the Oromo Liberation Front. Tesfaye doesn’t know for sure because no court ever charged him with a crime.

“They took us turn by turn to a dark place, and they would shock us and say, ‘What do you think now? You won’t change your ways now? Do you want to be a member of our party now?’ ” Tesfaye recalled of his time in prison early last year. He refused to give his last name for fear of being rearrested.

Accounts like this are common in today’s Ethiopia. Interviews with dozens of people across the country, coupled with testimony given to diplomats and human rights groups, paint a picture of a nation that jails its citizens without reason or trial, and tortures many of them — despite government claims to the contrary.

Such cases are especially troubling because the U.S. government, a key Ethiopian ally, has acknowledged interrogating terrorism suspects in Ethiopian prisons, where some detainees were sent after being arrested in connection with Ethiopia’s invasion of Somalia in December. There have been no reports that those jailed have been tortured. The invasion ousted an Islamic movement accused of having ties to al Qaeda that threatened to topple an interim Somali government struggling to control the country.

The Bush administration maintains that Meles’ government, a leading partner in its war on terror in East Africa, is committed to democratic and human rights reform. The government was severely criticized for a 2005 crackdown that saw tens of thousands of opposition members jailed and nearly 200 people killed following elections in which the opposition made major gains.

People across Ethiopia recounted stories of a government backsliding on human rights issues. They told of confinement for days in tiny, dark cells with their hands bound 24 hours a day; electric shocks; beatings with rubber clubs; police who held guns to prisoners’ heads; mutilation or pain inflicted on the genitals.

“If you think differently, that is enough to put you on the side of the opposition,” said 34-year-old Teferi, who recently was released from prison after two months without being charged with a crime. “If you say, ‘This is not right, this is right, it’s good to rule peacefully,’ if you talk something fair, it’s over for you because there is no fairness from them.”

Teferi said a police source told him that he was arrested because he played too much pingpong — and that police suspected he was recruiting people to a rebel group while he played. He said he was imprisoned at a police training camp called Sankele outside the city of Ambo, which the International Committee of the Red Cross has been barred from visiting.

Ethiopian officials dismiss stories of torture as lies, and have taken the further step of expelling everyone from foreign journalists to representatives of human rights groups such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. Ethiopian reporters for the U.S.-financed Voice of America must work in secret for fear of harassment.

Bereket Simon, a top adviser to Meles, said it’s in the interests of rights groups to lie about the situation, and he rejected the idea that torture occurs in Ethiopia.

“No way. No way. No way. I think you know, these are prohibited by laws, by Ethiopian laws — torture, any human treatments,” Bereket said. “In fact, we have been improving on our prison standards. We’ve been working hard to train the police forces, the interrogators.”

U.S. officials say Washington’s close alliance with the government in Addis Ababa allows it to raise concerns about Ethiopia’s record privately. The State Department is requesting more than $500 million for Ethiopian aid in fiscal 2008, almost all of it for HIV/AIDS relief. The United States trains Ethiopian troops, and the two governments have shared intelligence about Somalia.

U.S. Ambassador Donald Yamamoto said he wants to investigate claims of abuse, but warned against making allegations about Ethiopia’s actions without proof.

“There’s a lot of misinformation about Ethiopia — I mean, it’s amazing,” Yamamoto said. “The problem comes in trying to divide or separate what is fact and what’s fiction, and trying to keep an open mind on every issue. … There are problems, and we’re free to admit that, and the Ethiopians are open to admitting that as well.”

Ethiopia’s critics are skeptical of the government’s promises to improve its human rights record.

“Over the years, the more I see, the more I become convinced that not only does the government tolerate it, but I think they direct this kind of behavior,” said Ethiopian-born Theodros Dagne, a senior aide to Rep. Donald Payne, D-N.J., a leading critic of Ethiopian practices on human rights.

European diplomats and employees of Western aid groups, speaking on condition of anonymity, said they keep quiet about abuses because they fear the government will freeze them out of aid work. About 2.8 million of Ethiopia’s 75 million people depend on foreign food aid.

Washington’s steadfast support has led some Ethiopian opposition leaders to assert that Meles’ government has only been emboldened.

“We fully believe that the international community is not going to democratize this place — it’s going to be the tough task of the Ethiopians,” said Beyene Petros, a lawmaker and leader of the United Ethiopian Democratic Forces, a coalition of opposition groups. “Simply, the U.S. State Department’s or the U.S. government’s position on Ethiopia is that it’s a friendly government, and how can you go and quarrel with your friend because somebody told on him?”

Zoe Alsop contributed to this story, which was reported with a grant from the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting.

  1. John
    | #1

    Lol, I love the Cartoon picture accompanying the article. The story is sad, but i don’t think it even glosses through the real human rights violation that is being perpetrated in Ethiopia at this point and time. From what I could gather, TPLF has now truly turned itself to Derg no. 2.

  2. Tigist
    | #2

    I don’t think there is any comparison between Derge and weyanne. Derge was a bad Ethiopian government that clearly violated thousands and thousands of Ethiopians human rights, but there is no question about all the Derge members being Ethiopian and at least their intention or motive was to build united and strong Ethiopia. They just didn’t know how to do it, and they screwed a lot of people life and they gave our beloved country for its enemies. In other hand weyannes are Ethiopia’s enemies, they helped shabia to secede Eritrea. As a result of that now Ethiopia is a land locked country. Weyannes bring the ethnicity politics to diminish our nationalism for one united Ethiopia. Not only that, Meles Zenawi and co. have no value for human rights. They are evils on the loose. They have to be contained as soon as possible. The above article is a good attempt to expose what weyannes are doing, but we all know for sure that the fact is grosser that it has been reported. Weyannes are Nazis and they are a treat to all humanity and civilization. Some thing has to be done against these evils before they slaughter more and more lives.

  3. Dinka
    | #3

    Tigist has said it all with passion!!!I quote her last words”Something has……..before they slaughter more and more lives” My friends we have arrived at the crossroad for any Ethiopian it is clear to identify…I have said it before and I will say it again we have arrived at high tech,digital colonialism era;When Europe came for Ethiopa during clolonialism,Ethiopians had to put their difference aside became one and fought from the inside and some neighbouring African countries joined concious Black people world wide echoed the attrocities today!!! there is many of you in America with great passion about mother Ethiopia the big sister of Africa you are the nucleus solution to this problem please keep addressing this tribal,ethnic government to the black community because it is not anymore an EAst AFRican problem it is a pan African problem!!!!Afro Americans have been instrumental
    in leading this unity we need this great spirt From America to the Carribean we need their understanding and support mostly from black people as STolky Carmichel(Kuame Toure),WEB du bois,Marcus Garvey,Malcom x Nellson Mandella…then maybe the rest of us in Canada might follow.This is about Africa!so African in the diasspora must come together and abolish this white America set up “new AFRCAN visionary leaders like Melles Musseveni….”and replace it with our own African soul chosen by Africans for Africans journey.LIKE CUD voted out Melles but Melles stayed in controll with Bush and Cheny’s…. help was it not Dick Cheny who lobbied against Mandella,Sousolu…so is it not Bush who lobbies for Melles.Does this not remind you those slavery days except the White has mad black and brown boys(Uncle Tom’s)in his own image.THIS PROBLEM IS NOT ONLY AN EAST AFRCAN PROBLEM IT IS A PROBLEM OF ALL HUMAN RACE .god BELSS afrICA

  4. Debesay
    | #4

    “The White House expressed deep concern on Monday over how Russian authorities broke up opposition protests over the weekend, calling it heavy-handed and part of an “emerging pattern of use of excessive force.” You see Bros and siss yea they express deep concern because the opposition leader was arrest for few hours and no one die or seriously injured . But the concern is why this happen in Europe ?if it is in Africa that is ok the death of hundreds of ethiopians is not an issue .Please forgot US and westerns and try to get the solution from home.

  5. zagwe
    | #5

    Tigist,

    Said it okay to KILL million of people as long as if you love ETHIOPIA..

    you can kill 6 million Ethiopians as long as your intention or motive was to build united and strong Ethiopia…

    This kind of Derge left over trying to talk about humar right is like KKK guy demonstrating for black’s right… it is very funny. if not a crime…

    Debesay:- don’t try to take our cry… what happend is the opp. the cud trying to their hard to KILL as much as 10,000 poor youth to get to power what the govt. trying to do is saving life you see the opp. happend in Ethiopia…

    My question is if Meles was the one who was doing the killing then why is that no body died for the last one years… while those cud leaders were in jail… putting those cud leaders in jail make Ethiopia safe then I will say put them their forever we want peace not war.

    You try to balme Meles for what cud leaders did but it is fact that no boyy died for the last one year while cud leaders in jail therefore it is and it is only the cud leaders who created the MAY 15 MASS…

    As you know even in usa govt. have the right and a duty to protect the rule and order of the soicty and they discharage that duty their is not zero foult from the govt. unto now… if you think you have prove then bring it up otherwise don’t mix up RUSSIAN WITH ETHIOPIA

  6. GeZay
    | #6

    Mr.Debesay you are right the solution must come from home but the solution (CUD)keep getting thrown to Kaliti!!! so as Mr Dinka said for the *diasspora* they have to address this issue from the outside as well.Read him carefully he is addressing those people out there like Prof.Al Mariam they live in the west(US)they are making a big difference!so how can we forget about them(U.S).Have you read Prof Al Mariam speech while he was in Mennesota,have you read what Desmond Tutu said also?I will agree with you Mr Debessai if you are in Ethiopia right now; but I totaly agree with Mr.Dink’s approach regarding Ehtiopians living in the U.S. So,do not overlook the power of concious black Afro/American attention to this problem.

  7. zagwe
    | #7

    Dear Gezay,

    You talk about Prof.Al Mariam, I don’t know prof. al.mariam but you don’t tell us what kind of prof. al mariam is? Second if he is real prof. then why is he wasting his time going around talking BS. instead why did he go to Ethiopia and serve ethiopia using his education? instead of trying to get to power their are may way you can help Ethiopian people you don’t have to be PM TO DO IT. you don’t need power to help ethiopia.. if you ask me not every prof are smart he might be book smart but not smart to lead Ethiopia that job is taken by smart Meles… he is doing fine job… Ethiopia is progressing non stop… what more do we ask for from our leaders…

    By the way is this so called prof. a.mariam ever worked in is field? this is very important question becuase most prof. for Ethiopia never have a real job therefor I am every much woried about this so called prof.

    You might say what is wrong if the prof. have no job? my answer is simple if he have no job then he use the cud party as income and he never want to complete the work if the work is done then you will be jobless therefore he doesn’t want the job to end you see that is why we have so many prof. working for cud and doesn’t want their income to end hence creating more problem so that they can keep their job forever…

    we ethiopian must be smart from those kind of prof. I don’t mr.Gezay, you must be prof. A.M trying to cover your name and promting yourself… in that the case I will not balme you.

  8. GeZay
    | #8

    Zagwe You said you do not Know Prof Al Maiam so I suggest go to the search engine (U.S State dept. and check his name and bio. if you difficulty ask ABUGIDA,s webmaster I am sure they will able to help you)I am happy you mistook me for PROF,Al.Mariam really I am honoured because I drive Taxi for a leaving.

  9. GeZay
    | #9

    Zagwe You said you do not Know Prof Al Maiam so, I suggest you go to the search engine (U.S State dept. and check his name and bio. if you have difficulty ask ABUGIDA,s webmaster I am sure they will able to help you)I am happy you mistook me for PROF,Al.Mariam. Really!!! I am honoured because I drive Taxi for a leaving.

  10. zagwe
    | #10

    Dear GeZay,

    I did what you told me and I found this

    Prof. Al Mariam is working hard to implment H5680. He also work hard to cut aid to Ethiopia.

    But there is no nothing that tell me about his bio… anyhome this guy must be foolsh otherwise as far as I understand H5680 will hurt more cud party then Meles as far as Meles goes he is not in power to opp. other ethnic groups…

    Beside it is not funy the so called free minded people trying to impose USA policy on Ethiopia… if they think they are free people why they want usa to colonze us?

  11. zagwe
    | #11

    Dear GeZay,

    I did what you told me if you want you can try yourself. http://www.state.gov/

    No body know Mr. A.Mariam at state dept. Maybe this guy might be fake you seems to believe in him. it seems you take this guys as your safer god! who doesn’t make mistake and if this prof say somthing it must be turth and it must be followed by 70 million of Ethiopians…

    This guy trying to fool Ethiopian by going around and talk about H5680 can you belive that even if the bill pass who is going to inforce it? do you think American people care if cud win or lose election? Ameircan interest must and should come first…

    beside for the American people EPRDF and cud ARE SAME AND they will not say cud love Ethiopia more then Eprdf if you tell them that they will die laughing…. this is like saying democrate love Amrican more then Mr. Bush… or saying Democrate are more American then Mr. Bush… if you taking this kind of BS it doesn’t matter you are prof. or taxi driver they will think you for carzy…

    The same can be sad about the cazry prof who trying to cut aid for his own country… can you believe that You are hating your own mother because he marry your father… yes your father…

  12. TGW
    | #12

    Mr. Zagwe,

    Please leave Prof. Al mariam alone, U are far apart to comment about him!
    However, if U keep on trying check please,try to know him before U jumb into critics!
    He is not only working in his profession, but is of cousre a senior Staff in USA! yet an Ethiopian blood!I just recommend U stay clam, b/c U even won’t understand him at all!

    TGW

  13. Mimi
    | #13

    Ato zagwe, it appears to me from you comments above you are a typical weyanne, who either doesn’t have a clue about a lot of things or pushing the weyanne stupid propaganda regardless how the audiences will receive it. You trash every one that dares to oppose the evil Meles regime and still support Meles. For example you said a lot of nasty things about Pro. Almayenu who is straggling for human rights and democracy in Ethiopia in a very civil and peaceful manner and at the same time you try to paint Meles as a beautiful thing as if he hasn’t done anything wrong. Meles is a killer! He is responsible for millions of life that is perished in Ethiopia over the years. Now, the international community is learning more and more about this monster. Besides all these facts out there, he is an Eritrean. I assume that you are moron weyanne from Tigray. And, I would like to advise you to ask yourself first about why do you let an Eritrean guy to lead a Tigray libration front? Is it because there in no single person in Tigray to think right and do some thing good that would benefit every one? Second, have some common sense and try to convince us instead of throwing your fucked up nonsense on this site. Keep in mind you are not addressing idiot farmers from Tigray when you post here.

  14. Zagwe
    | #14

    TGW Says

    “He is not only working in his profession, but is of cousre a senior Staff in USA!”

    That means if you have prof.title and if you working in usa as senior staff in your profession that mean you are above the law… this kind of mind that killed young youth in Ethiopia during cud may uprise… those cud leaders think they are above the law just because they are educted… the sad thing is in Ethiopia the poor pay for the cost of education for those elite people then those elite turn around and insuling the poor by saying it is ok to kill 10,000 youth as long as cud reach the power… prof. a.mariam might got a free education at the cost of the poor and now he want to cut aid for Ethiopia because he is not in power… now you tell me not tlak back to this guy just because he is prof. I don’t who he is as long as he try to be my leader wihtout my wish I have to fight him….

    to tell you one thing I have a feeling you Mr. Tgw you are mr. mariam.. otherwise why do you care what i say about this guy he is a fake because i could not find his bio… online.. you try and tell me where he work beside working full time for cud party …

  15. Zagwe
    | #15

    Mrs. Mimi what more can I say about the fake prof. he is trying to hurt Ethiopia while Meles try to protected. just read what I say about this guy this guy is carzy who you say hurt my mother just because she is marrying my father… this kind of logic is the prof. playing he is saying cut the aid because he is not in power let million of people die he doesn’t care as long as cud or people like him are in power.

    Second I have no problem with cud holding power but they don’t know how to rule or govt. a nation that is why I am gainst them… not because they are Amhara.

    You say Meles come from Eritea but the Amhara elite come from Yaman.. Arab country I read it in Ethiopian history book all our kings come from Isreal… does that mean all Amhara are not fit to govt Ethipoia?

    people like you sit in American and talking bs is not good you are Ethiopian but you become citzen of America and you can vote and elected as governer… you are just like any other American having equal right when yoyr kids born in America then they can become any thing they want inculding becoming Persident of America.

    Now you have all this right sitting in America but you don’t want the same right to apply for follow Ethiopia… where we going to stop the hate… you say Meles is Eritrean then he is doing his job better then any so called Ethiopian therefore He desreve it more then any one… inculding people like you or fake prof…

    The so called Ethiopian fake prof. trying his hard to hurt Ethiopia while the Eritrean Ethopian Meles trying his best to protect Ethiopian interest… then who you going to choice the fake prof just because he have Ethiopian blood or Meles who love Ethiopia so much he is willing to die for it.

  16. Reppi
    | #16

    Zagwe
    You wrote”My question is if Meles was the one who was doing the killing then why is that no body died for the last one years”
    Who would take the word of a woyane as truth?
    Rememeber these?
    1. There are no Woyane soldiers in Somaliia.
    2. There are no secret detention centers in Ethiopia.
    3. Only 48 civilians were killed by agzis in the Nov. peaceful demonstration.
    These words came out of the Mouth of a woyanne like yourself.
    A lot of civilians have been killed by the banda woyanes this year alone.
    If you dare, go to some of the non banda Ethiopian websiteS and read about the atrocities commited by your banda group.
    Do you think you are addressing ignorant farmers from Tigray when you post here?

  17. Mimi
    | #17

    Weyanne “Zagwe” are you going to respond to my questions. I hope you are thinking twice before you post once. I can’t wait to see with what kind of concept you would come up after you take the whole day to think about it. Come on Weyanne! Surprise all of us with some kind of logical explanation that would give a sense. I have not met any Weyanne that has some kind of truth or common sense. I don’t know what their mothers feed them or thought them, so they would be such twists. Here is my question once more:

    Ato zagwe, it appears to me from you comments above you are a typical weyanne, who either doesn’t have a clue about a lot of things or pushing the weyanne stupid propaganda regardless how the audiences will receive it. You trash every one that dares to oppose the evil Meles regime and still support Meles. For example you said a lot of nasty things about Pro. Almayenu who is straggling for human rights and democracy in Ethiopia in a very civil and peaceful manner and at the same time you try to paint Meles as a beautiful thing as if he hasn’t done anything wrong. Meles is a killer! He is responsible for millions of life that is perished in Ethiopia over the years. Now, the international community is learning more and more about this monster. Besides all these facts out there, he is an Eritrean. I assume that you are moron weyanne from Tigray. And, I would like to advise you to ask yourself first about why do you let an Eritrean guy to lead a Tigray libration front? Is it because there in no single person in Tigray to think right and do some thing good that would benefit every one? Second, have some common sense and try to convince us instead of throwing your fucked up nonsense on this site. Keep in mind you are not addressing idiot farmers from Tigray when you post here.

  18. j.p.h
    | #18

    “ZAGWE” the poor thing,
    You have exposed your ignorance when you said the following: “Meles who love Ethiopia so much he is willing to die for it…” Is that not joke of the century? The people say in amharic -
    “Yehe enkuan le Ethiopia hizbena le Meles lerasum enkuan ayiwatiletim! You are lost, you will be fired by your master, because Meles himself is reading for sure these sites and would know what kind of ignorant and morons are defending him.
    No more blood soaked money! Go search another job.
    May be as a proud TAXI driver-
    they have never murder children? And then you need to have driving license, know in and outs of big cities, know several languages at a time.
    O no sorry it is not for you,
    So what is left for you is only the job as a -
    “Guto Felach”.
    You are not even worthy to the respected work of innocent and hard working poor people, who toil day and night to feed their family. They never raped women, tortured or mass murdered people.
    You don’t fit here either -
    you are just one ignorant and moron child killer!
    Please ignore this brainless evil!
    They are here to neutralize us:
    Expose the tyrant,
    Fight for the release of our leaders!
    Respect peoples voices,
    These are the issues we have to focus at!
    Thank you

  19. Zagwe
    | #19

    I am a feeling most so called cud leaders are not working in America…

    For example what was the job of Eng. Hailu Shower while he was in America? Does any one know what Eng. Hailu Shower doing for life in America…

    Let assume his age is 75 years a good guess that make him out of work for good ten years… my question is what he was doing before he reach the golden age? does any one know?

    Why I ask this question is Eng. Hailu have nothing to lose by risking everything because as far as him goes his is his life the last great job for life instead of wasting his old age dying somewere in America he is having fun in his dying age.

    Second my guess out of work for more then ten years is simple as you know no one will hire him as Eng. in America he is old school Eng. without good understanding of road techology that drive America economy…

    3rd as far as Eng. working in other field it is more doubtful because he is kind of week to work in any kind of factory… therefore he might be working as a taxi driver or parking lot worker… in fact this work is great but he can’t use his tilte if he doesn’t use it for more then 20 years…

    I think it is time for the Eng. to lose his title because he is trading high in fake education that he never work or develop for more then 20 years…

    I am very sorry but that is what we should look instead of treating this guy as our god…. this kind of mind bending must be stop and Ethiopian see the light… I hope this guy realited that he is to old even to lead his own home let alone 70 million people…

    I am telling you this is not hate but fact the guy is to old and have nothing to lose that is the reason he is making mess… as far as him goes he is having ball… he is a rock start who in his right mind doesn’t all the lama light? at his age he even doesn’t care if he dies then why follow an old guy to his death…

    ethiopian are mojorty are young people we can make it without the old fat cat I hope so!

  20. Grum
    | #20

    Wayanew Zagwe

    You are such a stupid and stubborn liar to defame Ethiopian intellectuals and Hereos.

    For anyone who read your arrogant insulting on genuine and selfless Ethiopians, it is not difficult to directly identify you with Your egotistical boss Melese. First, everbody knows that you woyanes are always anti-Ethiopia and defame everyone doing good for Ethiopia. That is what your boss is doing when he dismissed 40 AAU professors, imprisoned and killed and the first surgeon doctor, Prof. Asrat and alot more others. You woyanes are always defaming educated Ethiopians who expose your treachery and mercenary mission. It is true that you and your boss are mercenary struggling hard to destroy Ethiopia and Ethiopian. You are such a stupid person to arrogantly harass, jailed and kill Ethiopian Professors, Doctors, engineers, lawers etc. Who are hope of Ethiopians. You are doing the same thing as Italian did on Ethiopian intellectuals. You woyanes are either stupid or shameless liars to post such blatant false accusation and attack on genuine Ethiopian intellectualls.

  21. Daniel
    | #21

    Dear Zagwe,

    It seems to me you have two different conflict ideas but your ideas do not have any common ground and do not have any compelling argument to convince your Ethiopian brothers and sisters. First, if you would like to be a blogger, you need to write properly and express your idea clearly so that I suggest you need to take a writing class. Secondly, before you post your message, please go back and read if your writing really makes sense to you.

    Having said this, most of us do not care either who is the leader would be but instead, we care about anybody wants to be a leader must unite the country instead of divide, must improve the economy and eradicate poverty, must provide freedom and equal right, and must get rid of corruption. Back to the question: Do we have a leader to characterize all these? I am sure the answer is NO. Only, what we know of Zenawi government kills women, children, young, adult and old people. In addition, Zenawi uses force to govern this country but his dream never become reality. The more he uses his power, the more people dislike and against him. The more people dislike him then the more power he uses then the disparity gradually wide open between his regime and people; as a result, the regime become a loner. Eventually, he will die quietly as old turtle.

  22. Zagwe
    | #22

    Dear Mrs. Daniel and Mr. Grum,

    Why you guys are mad? I ask very simple question Mr. Shower is very old man may be 75 years old therefore it is very easy to tell that he was out of work for more then ten years… this is not his fault but this a fact… it is called old age…

    Now tell me as old man out of work for more then ten year if not more you some one ask you to become a rock start will the woman you want all the money you want all the power you want you will not say no because you have only few years to live with all your health problem you will say yes

    that by it self is not bad the bad thing is those fool people who follow those cazry old fat cat… most of them never married never have a real job never work in their life but they want to become Ethiopian kings this kind of so called I am fighting. I hope you will join me.

  23. Daniel
    | #23

    Zagwe,

    You do not really listen and understand others people point of view because of your genetics defect so that all the bloggers are against you as much as your blood sucker leader. Again, go back correct your grammar and syntax then come back express your thought clearly.

  24. Zagwe
    | #24

    Dear Mrs.Daniel Says:

    “go back correct your grammar and syntax then come back express your thought clearly. ”

    You will not say this to me if you hear and see how this your god eng. Shower speak English.. after living in America for 41 years this guy doesn’t even speak good English it is full of grammar mistake and no one understand him what the guy saying let alone speak good English..

    Forget speaking good English this guy doesn’t even make sense and all his logic up side down. Mrs. Daniel you must be eng. shower himself otherwise who in hell you defending him.

    I hope you will answer my question istead of insulting me.

    1. Who should pay for eng.shower medical bill
    2. What work did he did after retriment
    3. When did he become retired
    4. Should cud party should be paying eng.shower medical bill
    5. Do you think it fair for ethiopian tax payer to pay 100,000 birr to fily in South Afircan doct. for one viste for eng. shower medical while young ethiopian luck simple treatment.
    6. Do you think it would be costily to treat Eng.Shower if he become PM of Ethiopia and become ill his medical bill will jump to million birr per day because now he is PM so many people have to go with him and stay in high price hotel etc etc… do you think ethiopia can affored the
    medical bill for eng. shower and all those old timer…

    7. If I talk about health let me talk about one most important thing when I look most cud leaders they are fat and ugly people… for example look Adis Ababa ex-mayor Arkebe Oqubay and elected mayor of Addis Ababa Dr. Berhanu Nega… Arkeber Oqubay look a moive star and very fit man while Dr. Berhanu Nega is fat and ugly.. you might say what being fat and ugly has to do with it…

    My simple answer is the so called Dr. Berhanu Nega was in America teaching the American economy for the last ten year and living for almost 30 year in America as you know the 99.9 % Ameircan know being fat is not healthy therefore Dr. Berhanu Nega should have take care of his body and become fit by this guy can control himself let alone control the heath of our poor people… what kind of image does you sending if he is fat and tel other poor people not to fat.. as you know in Ethiopian fat is good.. Why stop here look Meles and Eng. Shower shower look like a dying person while meles is fit and young… in fat look evey and each TPLF member 99% are fit even it they are old they are fit while most of cud leaders are old and fat… I am not talking being fat in America being fat in America beause there a lot of food that is why you are fat but being fat inside million of hungry people is if it not a crime then it is very bad..

  25. j.p.h
    | #25

    Ignorant “Zagwe”
    Read”Ye netsanet Goh siked”, you hardly understand it?

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